What is the deal with this "Wonkette" person?

[jdj]

Does anyone read her site? I had the depressing experience today of turning on PBS today looking for GlobeTrekker or Nova and instead encounter Fucker Gnarlson interviewing her. She seemed like a repuke to me but I am not sure, because she 'looked' like a normal human being. I am not going to give her a cookie to find out,

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

1. She was being interviewed by Tucker Carlson and she looked like

she was flirting w/ him. She was talking like, "Like, omigod...fer shure.."

[Gman]

2. Use Mozilla

[wndycty]

3. She is very liberal. . .

. . .:kick:

[tcfrogs]

4. Yes, she's a liberal

Someone here has a big crush on her...not me, but I remember seeing that someone does...

[jdj]

5. She did not sound liberal today at all.

She said that there seemed to be some quota the dems had to meet when talking about Vietnam in every speech. She laughed along with Tucker Carlson's accusation of hypocrisy with regards to why dems did not mention Iraq in these speeches if this is such an important issue in the election, and seemed to agree on that point (when in fact it was mentioned in the speeches I watched). I would have told him to fck himself. And poster 1 is right, she sounded like a valley girl, she must have said 'like' five times in one sentence. Sorry if I sound overly critical, I still haven't gotten over upchucker snarlson being on PBS, it makes me never want to ever turn it on.

[customerserviceguy]

6. I'm someone who agrees with her on this issue

She's one of the people under 35 for whom Vietnam is a chapter in a dusty history book. Those of us that lived through it have a different perspective, no matter whether we fought in the war, fought against the war, or just watched our friends and families lives disrupted by the war.

As a nation, we haven't really come to full grips with this war, and probably won't until at least another generation has passed. To Wonkette, it probably looks like those old Dixiecrats of 1948 who broke with the Democratic Party over issues as old as the Civil War. A Presidential campaign is probably a pretty poor forum to psychoanalyze the American psyche's remaining damage over the Vietnam war, and the fact that Wonkette is not impressed with the debate is a symptom of what I fear.

We of the Vietnam generation, and the one before it, get it. It's the younger voters that don't think Vietnam speaks to them who worry me. Bob Dole couldn't sell his WWII service in 1996, I question whether Sen. Kerry can sell his Vietnam service in 2004.

Especially when it looks like such a hard sell.

[Cleita]

8. Iraq has already turned into this generation's Vietnam, but

only dirtier and meaner. The only reason it hasn't resonated like Vietnam is because there isn't a draft yet. I hope Kerry can get UN and NATO troops to bail us out. * won't because they can't stand him and won't help him, so if he is re-elected, there will eventually have to be a draft, then Wonkette and those younger Americans will get the full reality of it.

[customerserviceguy]

10. If the UN and NATO wouldn't step in it before

I doubt they would do so now. Iraq is either going to stand on what they've gotten so far (I doubt that), or fall into civil war and chaos (much more likely). I disagree that it is this generation's Vietnam, if it had been, Bush would have just refused to run, like LBJ did.

Even though Nixon did not bring Vietnam to any kind of successful conclusion, he was able to run "Peace with Honor" bumperstickers (:puke:) to get re-elected in 1972. That's clearly Bush's strategy, forestall the collapse until after the election, because the first plan didn't work (Afghanistan, part two). If we'd have bugged out of Vietnam in 1967 instead of 1973-75, the public would have forgotten about the casualties in 1968, and would have re-elected Johnson, I'm sure of it. The result in SE Asia would have been the same, only we'd have been a much more United States through it all, even today.

[Cleita]

14. My point exactly on the UN and NATO, they won't step in for Bush.

Let's hope Kerry can be more persuasive. If not I really fear the results for this country and the world at large.

[AngryAmish]

12. By any objective standard you are wrong

More Vietnamese died in their war.
More Americans died in Vietnam by a factor of 25 (so far).
Vietnam went on longer.
The cost of war (as a % of GNP - the stat that counts) was much higher in VietNam.
Millions of refugees in VietNam, very few in Iraq.

Iraq was a stupid war. However, Vietnam was much worse by any objective standard.

[Cleita]

13. "Vietnam went on longer."

This statement wipes out your other points as we haven't ended this war, photo opportunities on an aircraft carrier nonwithstanding. We don't yet know what the full casualties or refugee status will be in the end. Vietnam was also a stupid war fought for stupid political reasons. Read up on why we got involved. I was around when it started and the only reason that Americans took awhile before they started questioning our government was because they were lied to.

They were told that they were sending in military advisors and then when more troops were going over it was a police action. You see Kennedy and Johnson knew only Congress could declare war, so they never called it a war, nor was Korea called a war for that reason. Today *W blatantly has used this precedent to strike a preemptive war and he doesn't even bother to cover it up with nice acceptable terms.

[jdj]

15. was?????

It's still going on, our soldiers are still there dying every day.

I think it was 58,000 American fatalities and a million vietnamese. If this goes on for as long as Vietnam did who knows what the cost will be.

And the poster is absolutely right in that the moment a draft is instated, which will happen unless everone over there suddenly joins hands and starts singing kumbayah really soon, because the majority of the soldiers over there will not re-enlist, all of a sudden these wankettes with their heads up their behinds will start shouting "iraq is our vietnam" for everone to hear.

[Warpy]

7. She also plays an airhead Repuke

crashes their functions, then skewers them on her website.

[LTR]

9. One of the funniest blogs on the web!

Very sarcastic and raunchy.

Skewers Republicans more than Dems.

Was heavily involved in the whole Washingtonienne story (she made a bigger deal out of it than it really was).

Married to a DC journalist. :(

A good, entertaining read, if you're a hardcore political junkie.

[jdj]

16. I remember what is was that set me off.

gnarlson asked her what the uniting factor was in the dem convention and she said "hatred of George W. Bush". He asked her why they hated him so much and she rolled her eyes and said "I don't know, it's kind of like abused children who all want to get together and kill Dad. They may not get along so well themselves, but the unite to kill Dad." I just sat there like, who is this, Mrs. Tucker Carlson or something.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

11. Her blog is more gossip than politics

but she is sometimes funny and often has some good links.