This is too good not to post.: A defense of John Kerry.

[jdj]

Date: 2003-03-17 20:20:18 PST
News Group alt.politics
Krusty: Of all the rightwingnut assholes who are posting to this newsgroup after GWB's speech, your worthless and stupid remarks are the ones that finally set me off. I am a liberal. I am also a retired Army officer. I have more fucking time in the latrine than you, David, GOPUSA, and the rest of you rightwingnut cowards on this NG combined have in uniform. I was humping a ruck through the bush in Vietnam when your were a goddam wet dream in your Daddy's hand -- if you know who your daddy is. Let's look at a few liberals: -- John Kerry, Democract of Massachusetts. Three Purple Hearts and two Silver Stars. Of course, you wouldn't know a Purple Heart if your lard ass sat on one but I'll let you in on a secret: You don't get a Purple Heart out of a Cracker Jack box. -- Bob Kerry, Democrat from Nebraska. Lost a leg in Vietnam, awarded the Medal of Honor. How about you haul your dumbass to the Senate, buttonhole John Kerry and tell him what cowards liberals are. After he rips off your head and shits down your throat maybe you'll learn something -- but I doubt it. It's people like you who have never had a shot fired in your direction, who have never stuffed what you could find of a 19-year-old kid into a body bag -- people like your Rush Limbaugh who sat out Vietnam with a boil on his ass, like everygoddamone of the chicken hawks in this administration, like Pat Robertson whose US Senator daddy intevened to keep him out of Korea, like GWB who hide out in the Texas air guard, like Bob Dornan who crashed three helicopters and two trainers and never saw a minute of combat yet who is a darling of fools like you -- people like you who wouldn't know courage if it were transplanted into you. Which is the only way you'll ever get any. Whoop ass? The only thing you can whip is your own needle dick.
-- Regards, Joe Schlatter
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Date: 13 Feb 2001
News Group alt.politics.usa.republican
Listen closely. Without a doubt, you, sir, have never worn a uniform. I am a retired Army colonel -- I have stuffed more 19-year-old kids into body bags than you can think of. There is no sexual deviancy in combat --no race, no religion, no other differences. There are two colors in combat -- olive drab and blood red. The kid who carried my radio in Vietnam was homosexual and he died with a big fucking hole in his guts, trying to stuff his guts back inside -- never whimpered, never said a word -- and not a day goes by that I don't think about him. Go fuck yourself, you asshole - you aren't man enough to carry his jockstrap. You refer to homosexuals as "candy asses." You are too fucking dumb to deserve an answer.
-- Regards, Joe Schlatter

I am really having fun with the anti-John Kerry site tonight, that's where these came from, lot's of good stuff to be found there, though I'm sure they don't mean it that way. ( http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com )

[Sugarbleus]

1. Exceptional!!! Sounds exactly like the words that my hubby

and his buddies (VN Vets) would utter if pressed by dumbshits like those addressed therein....

Thanks for the post. :thumbsup:


Kerry=SEND ME

[jdj]

3. I questioned, 'cause of the profanity, but it is too good for words.

I hope no one complains, but it is nice to hear this kind of speech turned AGAINST the freeptards for a change.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

7. I don't question it a bit.

In fact, I think it is appropriate to the situation, making a clear and unambiguous point that will be remembered by the pinheads.

Combat vets tend to stick up for other combat vets. Unless, of course, they are really REMFs and wannabes. They are generally easy to smoke out.

[jdj]

8. I mean, I was afraid someone might freak out on account of all the cussin'

But it was too delicious not to share. I wish I could swear with such eloquence.

But all I can say is "Yeah, what he said!"

[Sugarbleus]

9. Well stated. Sometimes, it takes SHOCK to wake a bloke up!

[WoodrowFan]

25. REMF???? (NT)

[noahmijo]

12. To tell you the truth I think the profanity authenicates it

I feel that if I went through half the hell a guy like this went though I don't think I'd be able to explain it to a chickenhawk without dropping massive F-bombs.

[Swede]

2. Sounds like there are a lot of pissed off vets.

Glad to know that.

[Insomnicole]

4. Too funny ...

That was from an anti-Kerry site? Joe Schlatter pretty much destroyed every anti-Kerry whine these jackholes could puke up.

And I'm finding that "when you were a wet dream in your Daddy's hand -- if you even know who your Daddy is" line a lot more amusing than I probably should.

[jdj]

5. me, too, I liked that one

and "you wouldn't know a purple heart if your lardass sat on one"

Excellent.

[newyawker99]

23. Hi Insomnicole!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[NMDemDist2]

6. ouch I think I hurt myself over there

couldn't hang to find any "good stuff"

[Pachamama]

10. Why would there be any Vietnam Vets opposed to Kerry? Someone explain?

I just don't understand...if anything, John Kerry to me seems to be someone who not only would have died for all his Band of Brothers there in Vietnam, but still would....how can they oppose him? Is it because he came back and spoke out against Vietnam? Why shouldn't he have? Was that because they thought the war there was okay and just? It took courage and he did that out of love for his comrades because he saw things (like many others) that showed the lack of leadership in our country and lack of concern for its soldiers that it sent into harms way....

I'm just curious....but I feel like most Vietnam Vets would/should feel like Joe Schlatter....

I like Joe....thanks Joe! :hi:

[jdj]

11. The same way Ann Coulter can criticize Max Cleland and get away with it.

I think at it's heart, the republican party are atheist ultra-libertarians, a very small minority who must therefore convince enough of the majority to vote for them. Unfortunately, they have the money to do just that. In one of Scaife's thinktanks (Heritage Foundation or American Enterprise Institute) they go,'hmmm, he's a decorated vietnam vet, so, let's see, get at least one puke vet to speak out against him, then get a whole bunch of trolls to stand behind the lackey, yeah, that's it, make it seem like a movement, blah blah blah. And so it goes.

p.s. I have nothing against atheists, I am just pointing out that their affiliation with religion is pure spin, too, because I think in their hearts, their only religion is money.

edit: the guy who owns this site is a nutjob, whom John McCain had to get a restraining order against, and the one guy on Kerry's swiftboat who is speaking against him is a repuke from South Carolina. I have lived in South Carolina, so enough said. These idiots protested an MLK day even though it would give them a day off, as a federal holiday, yet they still refused it.

[LTR]

18. Is that "one guy" John O'Neill?

As far as I know, O'Neill is just a Nixon-era RW shill who never came close to being around Kerry. But he's still telling this 30 year old lie to anyone who will listen.

[jdj]

21. No, argghh, I can't find his name, it's the one member of the

swift-boat crew who won't support John Kerry. All the other crew members are behind him, but this one freeptard that was on the boat is now a bushite. I've googled, but can't find his name.

[MichiganVote]

14. Because

At one time in their lives these were kids and someone said to them, you're going to go where you're shot at, where you shoot others and where maybe you are going to lose your best friend. And we're going to tell you why you're going and then we're going to change the reason why and we'll keep on changing it for whatever need we have.

And even though you will feel as though we have dishonored you, or that you have dishonored yourself, we're going to assure you that it's not you, its the other guy. We're going to help you help yourself to believe that any shame or remorse that you feel, doesn't belong to you. We're going to help you put the same blinders on that we have.

And you know what Poster? Shame never did rightfully belong to the vast majority of troops in Nam and it won't in this conflict either. Oh sure there are a few who would behave barbourously in any conflict situation. But the majority do not. And many of the present day troops won't believe they or their fellow soldiers are not dishonored because no matter how many times they hear that they are heroes to have removed the tyrant Saddam Hussein, we irrevocably changed their lives with our errors in these two wars.

So they return home unhealed from the family, their units, that have become the true womb of this new person they have become and they fight amongst one another. They argue what they were not permitted to argue about, what was justified and what was not. And they argue about honor.

John Kerry had one idea about war and its failure to live up to his internal doctrine of fairness and those who opposed him had another. The difference between the two is that one has left the war and the others are still fighting the dialogue I described above. For the men who all these years later are still attacking him about his choice to speak out against the war in Nam, well, they might as well still be there. They don't all turn to drugs or suicide. Some manage very good lives despite the pain of their experience.

Yet.

Until a soldier determines his own peace, his or her war continues.

[Pachamama]

15. Wow! That's an amazing explanation..thanks for taking the time to explain

it that way...Never heard it explained that way, but it makes sense and it actually makes me feel a bit sorry for those nutjobs at vietnamveteransagainstkerry.com - they must be tormented individuals.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :hi:

[MichiganVote]

24. Well don't get too soft, what they are doing is still wrongheaded

[noahmijo]

13. One of the posters says "nypost-hardly a right wing supporter"

unbelievable

John Kerry just doesn't get it. He doesn't have the support of Veterans nor the military. You will want to take a look at what happened today and this is from the nypost, hardly a right wing supporter.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/25935.htm

[DieboldMustDie]

16. I guess Rupert Murdoch is a liberal now.

:shrug:

[shraby]

22. Those marines said exactly what

they are supposed to say..what they've been told to say. Support your president and support what you are doing.

[Pachamama]

17. They think they should be on stage at the GOP Convention with Bu$H

HA! How funny would that be? I bet Bu$h and Rove aren't that stupid or desperate to get these nut cases on the same stage....it would expose them all! I actually hope they do!

Post on vietnamveteransagainstkerry.com:

Name: Hayden Cochran, CMSgt, USAF, Retired
Date/Time: Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 11:15:10 PM
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Comments:
It is so very important that Vietnam Vets against John Kerry be on the stage with our President during the GOP convention. We are not the 12 who were with John Kerry.

[saracat]

19. And if they are John McCain will bail! He says no

self respecting Vet would have anything to do with them. Should be interesting to see if Bush will push the envelope!

[Pachamama]

20. That's Right-McCain reportedly has a restraining order against this guy!

So, either they are there and McCain bails, or they aren't because they have no credibility! So what's it gonna be?

:kick: