Guess who "helped" with the voting "problems"?? Phillip Zelikow..

[SoCalDem]

He's a "busy" little troll.. He "helped" Condi Rice regarding the 9-11 crisis..he Chaired the 911 commission..He testified at it..He's on tv 24/7 explaining it.. and he also played a role in the HAVA stuff..

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December 5, 2001
Statement of Professor Philip Zelikow, Executive Director of. ... we saw controversial
ballot design; antiquated and error-prone voting machines; subjective and ...
www.house.gov/judiciary/zelikow_120501.htm - 25k - Cached - Similar pages

Committee on House Administration
... is a letter written by Philip Zelikow, Executive Director of ... states that use punch
card voting systems with ... to replace these outdated and unreliable machines. ...
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League of Women Voters -- Legislative Alerts and Updates
... rights amendments will ensure that voting machines are accessible ... are needed, that
the National Voter Registration Act ... our views from Philip Zelikow, see the ...
www.lwv.org/takeaction/107/ulr_10715_ear.html - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

Federal Election Reform Network
... for FY03, the Help America Vote Act authorized ... to begin the punch-card/lever machine
buyouts authorized ... Philip D. Zelikow, Director, Richard C. Leone, President. ...
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Federal Election Reform Network
... voting machine? 25% - Very Confident. 21% - Mostly Confident. 23% - Somewhat Uncertain.
31% - Not at all Confident. View Past Poll Results. Philip D. Zelikow, ...
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Politics in the Zeros
... Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched ... biggest danger is the strategic
breakdown of machines that will cause the non-vote in strategic ...
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ElectionReform.org - Sample form
... Right now," Zelikow said, "vote fraud is a one-person-at-a-time game, so it's hard
to have a major impact from vote fraud. When you begin using machines in ...
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Harvard Gazette: Casting a vote for election reform
... Its executive director is Philip Zelikow of the ... level with national ballots and standardized
machines across the ... Voting is habit-forming, but not voting is ...
www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/03.08/07-reform.html - 14k - Jul 22, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

Features
... million to buy out and replace old punch-card voting machines, whose many ... Philip
Zelikow, executive director of the National Commission on Federal Election ...
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The Christian Science Monitor | csmonitor.com
... not recommend eliminating punch-card voting machines, which resulted ... recommend one
kind of voting technology over ... sellers," says Philip Zelikow, the executive ...
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[Cha]

1. Did anyone see Philip Zelikow on cspan this

morning? With Brian Lamb? Talking about the 9/11 report..brian was asking him pointedly about the section in the report that dealt with the saudis leaving the Country during the ban on flying. The report said no plane flew while there were restrictions on flying and brian said..so no planes flew out of the Country when the restrictions were on?..and zelikow said ..no. The way he said "no" was like he was lying but I don't know.

Then brian said..so that movie F9/11 was a lie? And zelikow said ..I haven't seen the movie but no planes left the ground.

brian has obviously seen it and wants it to be a lie~

http://www.c-span.org

philip zelikow just seemed like freeeper when I saw him for a little bit this morning.

[jimshoes]

3. That is a lie

I personally saw a very large (What looked like a big military jet) fly east to west over Cleveland at about 10:00 am on the 12th or 13th of Sept. during the no fly order. So some planes did leave the ground and Zelikow lied.

[Cha]

7. It was so strange to have caught this little bit on cspan...

like I was in the Twilight Zone for real..and I couldn't wait to talk to someone about it..but ..all day at work and then I couldn't find any threads on it.

When I saw this on zelikow..I jumped on!

That's amazing that you personally saw a plane..we should all write in to brian lamb..his boy's gonna lose.

[jimshoes]

14. And I filmed it with an old movie camera as well.

Over a 15 or 20 minute span of time. I watched and filmed the vapor trail grow to nearly cover the entire middle of the sky. It was the only vapor trail in the clear (and I mean clear) blue sky that morning.

[peacetalksforall]

2. And he was the ONLY politico invited on the Washington Journal this

morning.

[buycitgo]

4. there was a thread on this today

I SAW the section in the book Brian was reading from that said specifcally that NO Saudis flew before the fourteenth

this is in DIRECT contradiction of, among others, Lautenberg's release of the tail number of the plane that flew out of Florida

the report got it completely WRONG, for whatever reason

Zelikow HAS to be aware of that, and this HAS to be made widely known

again, of course, where are the DEMS on this?

maybe if they squawk to the media........

don't they have ANY reliable conduits in major spots?

just think of all the willing and ready handmaidens for the RW there are

[Cha]

5. Could you please direct me to the thread on this

from this morning? Because I had to go to work and I totally thought about it all day..like ..I believe Michael Moore more than these guys..but it really bothered me(as I'm sure it did anyone who saw F9/11 and wasn't a freeper) that brian lamb was trying so hard to discredit F9/11 on his show..I've heard he was conservative ..but come on!

[SoCalDem]

6. c-span.org has the whole show..He was midway thru it, I think

www.c-span.org

[Cha]

8. I know, So Cal...but buycitgo said there was

a thread on this ..this morning..so that's what I was asking for.

Thanks, SoCal!:)

[SoCalDem]

9. I'll look for it.. brb

:)

[SoCalDem]

12. Found it :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2047963

[Cha]

16. Thank you, thank you, thank you..SoCal..

brb :)

[maryallen]

11. Craig Unger has a copy of the flight manifest ...

from the Saudi "escape" flight in his book, House of Bush, House of Saud.

[peacetalksforall]

10. If C-Span is supported by cable companies, it would seem that CPN

(Corporate Propaganda Networks) cable companies comprise a significant per cent of support for C-Span. If yes, they might be following their benefactors. Some of the hosts on C-Span actually seem to feel pain when intelligent anti-right wing callers speak pointedly, rationally and with credibility in their minute of truth.

[SoCalDem]

13. and then.....

(cue pained look).."oops, I pushed the wrong button"....dial tone

[Cha]

15. Don't I know it! And it all does make so much sense..

it's like why can't they see it as intelligent people?

c-span is suppose to be about Democracy..it's just all too Orwellian/Twilight Zone for me!

[buycitgo]

17. never mind...saw other posts

[Cha]

18. Thanks for starting that thread this morning..buycitgo(and I do)

I needed a place to vent on that ugly scene this morning on c-span.

I wonder if ol' lamb will have any of the Families of 9/11 on?

I saw Bob McIlvane on Canadian tv last night while I was just surfing and that was a really good interview..course, this Country only shows..zerkoff!

Bob Mcllvane, 9/11 Families For A Peaceful Tomorrow, said "AMericans deserved more than what was in the report"..and then he went on to name some things that he had found out but I'm sorry I didn't write those down.

Thanks again.