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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:16 PM
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Mr. Bush, You Are A Liar (final goddam revision)
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 01:23 PM by WilliamPitt
I swear to God, If there is another 'retraction' today, I am cracking skulls.

This essay should be read LOUD.

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Mr. Bush, You Are A Liar
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Friday 11 July 2003

There was a picture on the front page of the New York Times on Tuesday, July 8. It showed several American soldiers in Iraq sitting in utter dejection as they were informed by their battalion commander that none of them were going home anytime soon, and no one knew exactly when they were going home at all. PFC Harrison Grimes sat in the center of this photo with his chin in his hand, staring at ground that was thousands of miles from his family and friends. A soldier caught in the picture just over PFC Grimes’ shoulder had a look on his face that could break rocks.

210 of PFC Grimes’ fellow soldiers have died in Iraq, and 1,044 more have been wounded. The war created chaos in the cities, and it seems clear now that very little in the way of preparation was made to address the fact that invasion leads to social bedlam, not to mention a lot of shooting. Last Sunday, CNN’s Judy Woodruff showed a clip of a Sergeant Charles Pollard, who said, “All we are here is potential people to be killed and sitting ducks."

According to the numbers, almost two thirds of the soldiers killed in Iraq since May 1 died in “non-combat related” mishaps like accidental weapons discharges, accidental detonations of unexploded ordnance, and questionable car crashes. There are some in the world who might take comfort from the fact that only one third of the dead since May came from snipers or bombs or rocket-propelled grenades. Dead is dead, however. There is no comforting them.

A significant portion of the dead and wounded came after Bush performed his triumphant swagger across the deck of an aircraft carrier that was parked just outside San Diego bay. Those dead and wounded came because the Bush administration’s shoddy planning for this whole event left the troopers on the firing line wide open to the slow and debilitating bloodletting they have endured. A significant portion of the dead and wounded came after Bush stuck his beady chin out on national television and said, “Bring ‘em on!”

When a leader sends troops out into the field of battle, they become his responsibility. When his war planning is revealed to be profoundly faulty, flawed in ways that are getting men killed, he should not stick his banty rooster chest out to the cameras and speak with the hollow bravado of a man who knows he is several time zones away from the violence and bloodshed.

Such behavior is demonstrably criminal from a moral standpoint. The events that led to this reprehensible display were criminal in a far more literal sense.

Bush and the White House told the American people over and over again that Iraq was in possession of vast stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. Bush and the White House said over and over again that this was a direct threat to the United States. Bush and the White House told the American people over and over again that Iraq was directly connected to al Qaeda terrorism, and would hand those terrible weapons over to the terrorists the first chance they got. Bush and the White House told Congress the same thing. Very deliberately, Bush and the White House tied a war in Iraq to the attack of September 11.

It was all a lie. All of it.

When George W. Bush delivered his constitutionally-mandated State of the Union Address in January 2003, he stated flatly that Iraq was attempting to develop a nuclear weapons program. "The British government has learned,” said Bush in his speech, “that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa." He delivered this proclamation on the basis of intelligence reports which claimed that Iraq was attempting to procure uranium from the African nation of Niger.

Vice President Cheney got the Niger ball rolling in a speech delivered August 26, 2002 when he said Saddam Hussein had “resumed his effort to acquire nuclear weapons." As the data clearly shows, Mr. Cheney was a central player in the promulgation of the claim that Iraq was grubbing for uranium in Africa. This statement was the opening salvo.

CIA Director George Tenet made this same claim in a briefing to the Senate Intelligence Committee on September 24, 2002. This briefing was the deciding factor for a number of Senatorial fence-sitters unsure about voting for war. Bush, in a speech delivered on the eve of the Congressional vote for war on Iraq, referenced the Niger uranium claims again when he raised the specter of a “mushroom cloud” just three sentences after evoking “The horror of September 11.”

That sealed the deal. Congress voted for war, and a clear majority of the people supported the President.

In the last week, a blizzard of revelations from high-ranking members of the intelligence community has turned these Bush administration claims inside out. It began with a New York Times editorial by Joseph Wilson, former US ambassador to several African nations. Wilson was dispatched in February of 2002 at the behest of Dick Cheney to investigate the veracity of the Niger evidence. Wilson spent eight days digging through the data, and concluded that the evidence was completely worthless. The documents in question which purportedly indicated Iraqi attempts to purchase uranium were crude forgeries.

Upon his return in February of 2002, Ambassador Wilson reported back to the people who sent him on his errand. According to his editorial, the CIA, the State Department, the National Security Council and the Vice President’s office were all informed that the Niger documents were forged. "That information was erroneous, and they knew about it well ahead of both the publication of the British white paper and the president's State of the Union address," said Wilson in a ‘Meet the Press’ interview last Sunday.

"I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat," Wilson wrote in his Times editorial. "A legitimate argument can be made that we went to war under false pretenses." He elaborated further in a Washington Post interview, saying, “It really comes down to the administration misrepresenting the facts on an issue that was a fundamental justification for going to war. It begs the question, what else are they lying about?"

Ambassador Wilson’s claims are not easily dismissed. Wilson is a 23-year veteran of the foreign service who was the top diplomat in Baghdad before the first Gulf War. In 1990, he was lauded by the first President Bush for his work. "What you are doing day in and day out under the most trying conditions is truly inspiring,” cabled Bush Sr. “Keep fighting the good fight."

A great hue and cry has been raised as to the timing of the data delivery to the policy-makers. Don Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice have both claimed they knew nothing of the forged Niger evidence, claiming the information was buried in the “bowels” of the intelligence services. Vice President Cheney’s office has made similar demurrals. Obviously, the administration is attempting to scapegoat the CIA.

Given the nature of Wilson’s claims, and given who he is, and given the fact that he was sent to Niger at the behest of Dick Cheney, it is absurd to believe the administration was never given the data they specifically asked for over a year before the war began, and eleven months before Bush’s fateful State of the Union Address.

27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern, writing in a recent editorial, described a conversation he had with a senior official who recently served at the National Security Council. “The fact that Cheney's office had originally asked that the Iraq-Niger report be checked out,” said the official, “makes it inconceivable that his office would not have been informed of the results.”

Wilson is not alone. Greg Thielmann served as Director of the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research until his retirement in September. Mr. Thielmann has come forward recently to join Ambassador Wilson in denouncing the Bush administration’s justifications for war in Iraq.

"I believe the Bush administration did not provide an accurate picture to the American people of the military threat posed by Iraq," said Thielmann on Wednesday. During his press conference, Mr. Thielmann said that, as of the commencement of military operations in March of 2003, "Iraq posed no imminent threat to either its neighbors or to the United States". Mr. Thielmann also dismissed the oft-repeated claims of a connection between Iraq and al Qaeda. “This administration has had a faith-based intelligence attitude,” he said.

Thielmann could have saved his breath, and Wilson could have saved himself a trip, if the Bush administration had bothered to pay any attention to the International Atomic Energy Agency. The IAEA’s chief spokesman, Mark Gwozdecky, said on September 26, 2002 that no such evidence existed to support claims of a nascent Iraqi nuclear program.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer on July 8 stood before the press corps and said the President’s statements during the State of the Union address had been “incorrect.”

Let us look at the timeline of this and consider the definition of “incorrect”:

· February 2002: Ambassador Joseph Wilson is dispatched by Cheney to Niger to investigate Iraq-uranium claims. Eight days later, he reports back that the documentary evidence was a forgery;

· August 26, 2002: Dick Cheney claims Iraq is developing a nuclear program;

· September 24, 2002: CIA Director Tenet briefs the Senate Intelligence Committee on the reported Iraqi nuclear threat, using the Niger evidence to back his claims;

· September 26, 2002: The IAEA vigorously denies that any such nuclear program exists in Iraq;

· October 6, 2002: George W. Bush addresses the nation and threatens the American people with “mushroom clouds” delivered by Iraq, using the same Niger evidence;

· October 10, 2002: Congress votes for war in Iraq, based on the data delivered by Tenet and by the nuclear rhetoric from Bush four days prior;

· January 2003: George W. Bush, in his State of the Union Address, says, “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa.”

· March-April 2003: War in Iraq kills thousands of civilians and destabilizes the nation;

· April-July 2003: No evidence whatsoever of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons can be found in Iraq. 210 American soldiers have died, and 1,044 more have been wounded, as a guerilla war is undertaken by Iraqi insurgents;

· July 2003: Amid accusations from former intelligence officials, the Bush administration denies ever having known the Niger evidence was fake.

The Bush administration knew full well that their evidence was worthless, and still stood before the American people and told them it was fact. Bush sent the Director of the CIA to the Senate under orders to use the same worthless evidence to cajole that body into war.

That is not being “incorrect.” That is lying. In the context of Bush’s position as President, and surrounded by hundreds of dead American soldiers piled alongside thousands of dead Iraqi civilians, that is a crime.

They know it, too.

A report hit the Reuters wires late Tuesday night announcing the arrest of an Iraqi intelligence official named Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani. An unnamed “US official” claimed al-Ani had reportedly met with 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta in Prague just months before the attack. The old saw about Iraq working fist in glove with al Qaeda to bring about September 11 was back in the news.

According to the story, neither the CIA or the FBI could confirm this meeting had taken place. In fact, a Newsweek report from June 9 entitled “Where are the WMDs?” shows the FBI was completely sure such a meeting had never taken place. The snippet below is from the Newsweek article; the ‘Cabal’ statement refers to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and his coterie of hawks who have been all-out for war on Iraq since 1997:

“The Cabal was eager to find a link between Saddam and Al Qaeda, especially proof that Saddam played a role in the 9-11 attacks. The hard-liners at Defense seized on a report that Muhammad Atta, the chief hijacker, met in Prague in early April 2001 with an Iraqi intelligence official. Only one problem with that story, the FBI pointed out. Atta was traveling at the time between Florida and Virginia Beach, Va. (The bureau had his rental car and hotel receipts.)”

Amid the accusations that have exploded surrounding the revelations of Wilson, Thielmann and other high-ranking intelligence officials, comes now again reports of the infamous Iraq-al Qaeda connection, an administration claim meant to justify the war. As with the Niger forgery, however, it is too easily revealed to be utterly phony.

It reeks of desperation. This administration is learning a lesson that came to Presidents Nixon and Johnson with bitter tears: Scapegoat the CIA at your mortal peril.

There are many who believe that blaming George W. Bush for the errors and gross behavior of his administration is tantamount to blaming Mickey Mouse for mistakes made by Disney. There is a great deal of truth to this. Groups like Rumsfeld’s ‘Cabal,’ and the right-wing think tanks so closely associated to the creation of administration foreign policy, are very much more in control of matters than Bush.

Yet Bush knew the facts of the matter. He allowed CIA Director Tenet to lie to Congress with his bare face hanging out in order to get that body to vote for war. He knew the facts and lied himself, on countless occasions, to an American people who have been loyally supporting him, even as he beats them over the head with the image of collapsing towers and massive death to stoke their fear and dread for his own purposes. In doing these things, he consigned 210 American soldiers to death, along with thousands of innocent bystanders in Iraq. Given the current circumstances, there will be more dead to come.

There is no “The President wasn’t told” justification available here, no Iran/Contra loophole. He knew. He lied.

Death knows no political affiliation, and a bloody lie is a bloody lie is a bloody lie. The time has come for Congress to fulfill their constitutional duties in this matter, to defend the nation and the soldiers who live and die in her service. The definition of ‘is’ has flown right out the window. This ‘is’ a crime. George W. Bush lied to the people, and lied to Congress.

One Congresswoman, Democratic Representative Jan Schakowsky of Illinois, released a statement on July 8 that cuts right to the heart of the matter:

"After months of denials, President Bush has finally admitted that he misled the American public during his State of the Union address when he claimed that Iraq attempted to purchase uranium in Africa. That is why we need an independent commission to determine the veracity of the other so-called evidence used to convince the American people that war with Iraq was unavoidable.

"It is not enough for the White House to issue a statement saying that President Bush should not have used that piece of intelligence in his State of the Union address at a time when he was trying to convince the American people that invading Iraq was in our national security interests. Did the president know then what he says he only knows now? If not, why not, since that information was available at the highest level.

"What else did the Bush Administration lie about? What other faulty information did Administration officials, including President Bush, tell the American people and the world? Did the Bush Administration knowingly deceive us and manufacture intelligence in order to build public support for the invasion of Iraq? Did Iraq really pose an imminent threat to our nation? These questions must be answered. The American people deserve to know the full truth."

The voice of Rep. Schakowsky must be followed by others both within and without the majority. If nothing is done about this, American justice is a sad, sorry, feeble joke.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:08 PM
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1. That was Great, Thanks for posting it.
So clear and factual, wonderful to read.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:12 PM
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2. Good - I like
like that you took out LSAT scores, etc. Good read.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:16 PM
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3. Beautiful, Will!
This may be your best yet. It doesn't suffer from the revisions you had to make because of the Wilkinson thing. And bless you for including the long quote from Jan Schakowsky, my very own Congresswoman and personal heroine!

As an aside, but an important one, you nailed one of the key reasons so many of us remain angry toward the Democrats who voted for the war resolution ...

<snip>September 26, 2002: The IAEA vigorously denies that any such nuclear program exists in Iraq
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:21 PM
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6. Sussing this all out has given me pause
on the Senate vote. Yes, the IAEA said there was no evidence. But the President *and* the CIA Director told the Senate flat-out thet they had the evidence, that there was uranuim involved, etc.

Now, we all sit here on the forum and know that 99.9% of what comes out of Bush's mouth is bullshit. But imagine being a Senator who takes his/her job very seriously. Imagine being told by the President *and* the CIA Director that a nuclear threat was looming.

I probably would have voted for war.

I'd also be ballistic after discovering I was lied to.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:24 PM
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9. Considering who the pResident was
Obviously, some did not fall for his lies, and were well aware that all the "facts" had been de-bunked.

Would've thought Ritter told you as much.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:27 PM
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13. Ritter did tell me as much
which is why I wrote the book and busted my ass for a year, which is why I sent the book to everyone in the Senate. But I'm just some shmuck, and the CIA Director is the CIA Director. This Niger issue was not touched upon in my book - I didn't have the info at the time, and neither did Congress. They were lied to. All I am saying is that, given the data they were dealing with and the fact that it was the CIA boss who gave it to them, I may well have done what they did.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:17 PM
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28. No yer not
Read a recent article in the NYTimes about the fellow who published your book talking about William Rivers Pitt and then I go over to TomPaine.com and one of your articles is featured.

You are not some any old "schmuck" ;-)

In any event, some of our elected officials were not easily bamboozled, Nancy Pelosi on the Intel committee, for example, you would think she would know what's kosher.. And when did those who discovered the obvious ruse speak up and out in defiance and outrage?

With the exception of Byrd, who?

They didn't utter a sound until the political climate shifted enough to allow them to comfortably broach the subject....while the Pope protested from the start and Bush/Blair were banned from the church of the nativity, traditional birthplace of Christ.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:00 PM
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24. The ballistic part is what's missing
Isn't it?

I'm waiting, but not hopeful. They're still reading poll numbers -- numbers which I increasingly believe (tho I really don't want to) are themselves cooked.

Nice work.

Eloriel
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:19 PM
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4. Fine work, Will. -- About the 260 deaths - there are 2 threads on this,
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 01:24 PM by RichM
today, one by NewYorkerfromMass. If you mean the US deaths SINCE the major fighting was supposedly over, that number looks to be 210. If you mean the combined US/UK deaths since the war was "over," that was exactly 260. If you mean something else - ie, deaths DURING the "war" - then disregard this message!

OnEdit: just checked the NYfM thread again - it's 210 US soldiers since March 20.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:22 PM
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8. Thanks for the clear-up
Fixing...
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:20 PM
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5. Now you can get some sleep.
You have followed the great dictum,"I did the best with what I had."PEACE.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:21 PM
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7. good job
Which brings us to Powell's performance...

It wouldn't be the first time that Powell carried water for the big boys, but I wonder how he holds his head up? Oh well, he got his promises and the trip to Africa.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:25 PM
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10. Remember what Ray McGovern said about Powell
PITT: There was a recent Reuters report which described Powell being given a draft of his February 5 UN statements by Scooter Libby and the Rumsfeld boys. Powell threw it across the room, according to Reuters, and said, “I’m not reading this. This is bullshit.”

McG: I can see it happening. Powell was Weinberger’s military assistant for a couple of years, and I was seeing Weinberger every other morning in those years. I would see Powell whenever I went in to see Weinberger, and so I used to spend 15 minutes with him every other morning, just kind of reassuring him that I wasn’t going to tell his boss anything he didn’t need to know. Not only that, but we come out of the same part of the Bronx. He was a year ahead of me. He was ROTC and so was I. He was in ROTC at City College and became Colonel of Cadets and head of the Pershing Rifles, a kind of elite corps there.

I understand Colin Powell. I know where he is coming from, I know where he got his identity and his persona, and it was in this great institution we call the United States Army, which, by the way, I am very proud to have served in. But that is exaggerated, and it has been in his case. People were expecting him to take a stand on principle and resign. That was never a possibility I attributed to Colin Powell, because unlike General Clark, Powell is really a creature of how he was given his identity in this whole system. He is just not constitutionally able to buck it.

http://truthout.org/docs_03/062603B.shtml
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:25 PM
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11. Powerful, Will. I like it....
gonna forward it on to those who still haven't seen what this administration is all about.

:kick:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:26 PM
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12. Jan Schakowsky is the best member of Congress
I know, she used to represent me until redistricting hit in the 2002 election and I was moved out of her district officilly during this Congress. Raum Emanuel was my new Congressperson.

I've since moved to a suburb where a Repuke Rubber Stamp represents me. You can bet I'll be working to dump her sorry ass!
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:43 PM
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21. If you're referring to Biggert (?)
Count me in.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:33 PM
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14. I want to make a retraction!
Just kidding, great piece that will be read by many relatives and friends, thanks for the clear, defined explanation of events.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:35 PM
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15. OK, now I must destroy you
:)
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:39 PM
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16. Excellent
Very well done Mr. Pitt. I'm sending this one to the folks back home.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:40 PM
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17. I know beady eyes, but what's a beady chin?
A significant portion of the dead and wounded came after Bush performed his triumphant swagger across the deck of an aircraft carrier that was parked just outside San Diego bay. Those dead and wounded came because the Bush administration’s shoddy planning for this whole event left the troopers on the firing line wide open to the slow and debilitating bloodletting they have endured. A significant portion of the dead and wounded came after Bush stuck his beady chin out on national television and said, “Bring ‘em on!”
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:28 PM
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31. Beady
1. Small, round, and shiny

www.dictionary.com
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:41 PM
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18. Wonderful writing as always.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:41 PM
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19. Great job, but....
Methinks you are being WAAAAAAY too polite calling him "Mr.".
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:05 PM
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26. Oh, we can all call him 'Mr.' all we want --
just don't call him 'president'.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:42 PM
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Great job. But about Wilson's story...
I think it's important that you not misquote him or attribute to him things he did not say (though it does not change the heart of the matter, that the Bush admin HAD to know that the evidence was unreliable).

Wilson specifically says that the CIA asked him to go, not Cheney's office (albeit in response to queries by Cheney's office).

Wilson also specifically says that he never saw the documents himself. He did not "report back that the documentary evidence was a forgery". He did, however, based on interviews with many in Niger and his knowledge of the uranium industry there, "conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place."

His conclusion is the same in general: that the evidence was unreliable. But he did not conclude that it was based on forgeries (since he did not even see the documents).

Regarding the assertion that Cheney's office must have known, I think two things people are missing are very relevant.

1) The June Wash Post report that Cheney repeatedly visited the CIA to question analysts about Iraq WMD evidence. The WH denies the assertion that he pressured them, but not that he made the visits. If he did, then how could this not have come up, especially if the trip was made in response to questions posed by his office? Especially since he was visiting to take an unusually hands on approach to inquire about just this type of evidence? (that is, unless he WAS pressuring them to cook the books)

2) Wilson claims in his piece that "Ambassador Owens-Kirkpatrick... felt she had already debunked them in her reports to Washington". To whom were these reports sent and is there a paper trail?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:42 PM
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20. Superb! Kudos to you WP!
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:52 PM
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22. Will, this piece is so well done it almost made me cry
...tears of rage and frustration.

Keep it up.

(banty chests notwitstanding) ;-)
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qandnotq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:57 PM
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23. Preach on, brother
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:02 PM
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25. Par for the course
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 02:07 PM by JHB
Always remind people:

Remember "I read the report put out by the bureaucracy"?

The Bushies' MO is to make up their minds first, and dismiss anything that says different as the product of incompetents, bureacrats, those who just aren't "trying hard enough", and other lesser lifeforms.

Heck, go back to "Team B", the 1976 CIA experiment in using outside (read: conservative activist) analysts to compare against its own professionals (like McGovern). Perle helped push for it as a Congressional aide. Wolfowitz was an advisor to Team B. Poppy Bush approved it. The result: In Team B's assessment, the Soviets were a much more immediate and dire threat than Team A determined. The result: Team B's findings were leaked to conservatives ("what the government bureaucrats aren't telling you") to provide the justification for the Reagan arms buildup. But were they right? Hell no! While they may have gotten one or two technical points better than Team A, their overall strategic assessment of the Soviets was completely wrong. Yet now these modern-day Grima Wormtongues and their ilk are the top people making policy for this nation.

/rant

Good work.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:11 PM
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27. Good revisions
You bounce back fast. Good for you! I feared you'd be blithering in the lounge this morning.


:)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:29 PM
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32. That comes later
:)
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:22 PM
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29. Nicely done!! The withholding of N Korea's
nuclear weapons program prior to the vote gnaws on my brain. Oh yes, bush lied in his SOTUA, the real nuclear threat at that time was N Korea.

- "The White House withheld North Korea's admission about a nuclear weapons program from key Democrats until after Congress had passed its resolution authorizing war with Iraq, prompting complaints on Capitol Hill that the administration has let politics influence its conduct of foreign affairs." .........

"Senators are concerned and troubled by it," a Democratic leadership aide said. "This cloud of secrecy raises questions about whether there are other pieces to this puzzle they don't know about."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/10.21B.bush.hide.htm

Will they put the pieces together now??

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chromotone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:27 PM
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30. Excellent work
...blaming George W. Bush for the errors and gross behavior of his administration is tantamount to blaming Mickey Mouse for mistakes made by Disney

...nice touch
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:38 PM
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33. I ran across
an interesting comparison between the death toll for Gulf War I and this one and I will try to find it for you. We are approaching similar numbers. It would add more power to your already powerful article.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:40 PM
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34. A couple of points, Will
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 02:43 PM by Jack Rabbit

Yet Bush knew the facts of the matter . . . . There is no "The President wasn’t told" justification available here, no Iran/Contra loophole. He knew. He lied.

Because the Wilkinson story has been retracted, you haven't introduced anything that shows that Bush knew positively. My gut feeling is that he did, but that's not admissible in a court of law. I believe he should have known. That's good enough to remove him from office.

What is troubling about Bush's behavior as of this minute is that he is acting like he doesn't care whether or not his aides lied to him or whether or not the Niger document is a forgery. If Bush were an honest man who was truly deceived, he would be expressing outrage. Heads would be rolling: Rumsfeld's, Rice's, Tenent's, Wolfowitz', possibly Powell's and that's just for starters. That's not happening.

As of now, it can be stated that Bush either willfully lied in the SOTU or that he is unconcerned about it. The conclusion is the same either way: Bush must be removed from office now.

There is also the little matter that the Niger document was exposed as a forgery ahead of the start of the inviasion. On March 7, Dr. Mohammad ElBaradei, director of the IAEA, stated as much in his oral report to the UN Security Council:

Based on thorough analysis, the IAEA has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents - which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger - are in fact not authentic.

Yet this gave no one in the junta pause, not even Mr. Bush, who surely knew that one of the chief weapons inspectors had just called his SOTU remarks into question. Nevertheless, the invasion commenced in less than two weeks.

The case against Cheney is stronger than the case against Bush. Wilson finds it "inconceivable" that Cheney was unaware that the Niger document is a forgery. Did he tell Bush? If not, why not? If he did, then there is a case against Bush. Either way, Cheney should resign or be impeached.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:10 PM
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35. I disagree
Wilson said everyone - Cheney, CIA, NSC, State - knew. It is impossible to believe the data never reached the Oval Office.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:18 PM
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36. Concurring in part and dissenting in part
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 03:38 PM by Jack Rabbit

It is impossible to believe the data never reached the Oval Office.

I agree. I'm only saying you haven't proved it.

ON EDIT

Try adding some verbage like this:

Are we supposed to believe that this information never reached Mr. Bush? That is preposterous.

Then it falls into place.


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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:33 PM
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37. Much as it pains me
I must concur. There is no convictable evidence. There are people pointing fingers. There are assumptions. But in the end there is no one saying "I was there when Bush was told". They have managed to leave themself enough room for plausible deniability. When asked by Congress if he knew about the documents being forgeries before he made the SOTU speech he can claim he did not know until after the fact.

We need to dig deeper. We need to keep shaking the tree. We have enough now to wake the public and scare the BFEE. Yet we do not have enough to haul him before congress and say to him with conviction "How dare you... How dare you!"

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ward919 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:50 PM
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39. BUT it is incontrovertible that Bush MISLED the Congress and the
nation. Every other sentence of the SOTUS was misleading.
It's not about legalities...that's what guilty people like to use. It's about restoring "honor" and "dignity" and "truthfulness" and "maturity" to the Oval Office. This is what the voters voted for and this is what they will hold Bush accountable for. To be "dishonest" you don't have to be a "liar." (Although we know he is.) We should not fall for the trap of trying to claim and absolute lie ( a la Clinton/Leinsky). Just be straight up with the public. The man is dishonest and dishonest to the point of getting our sons and daughters killed! That should be enough for anybody to "recall" the Village Idiot from the Presidency!
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 05:06 PM
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44. Imagine the look
a Freeper would give you if you accused them of Freeping a poll and cheating. They would laugh you off of the net. The cries of dignity and fair play have nothing to do with their real intent.

The Bushies are cheating. We know they are cheating and they know they are cheating. The trouble is they have willing followers and they see the accusations of cheating as just a left wing plot. The more we scream about it the more they will scream back. We need something that cuts through the rhetoric. Something they cannot deny.

This is what they did to Clinton. They hounded him endlessly. We shouted back at them. This would have continued adinfinitum except they found evidence. Of course they had to go so far away from anything meaningful that it was embarassing but they found something they could force a lie and catch it in the act.

People know Bush is an idiot. Thus trying to hang him on that issue is lost. Take a look at the Repub candidates for Pres since Nixon. They simply do not want anyone with an IQ and an agenda of their own in office ever again. They lost control of Nixon. Never again. They keep their Pres' dumb and pliable. So claiming Bush is too stupid to be Pres is like saying Bozo wears too much makeup.

Another factor is that the right hates federal government. Bush's actions so far have been to dismantle it in any way except where it pries into peoples bedrooms and the military. And the military has been reshaped to fit their idea of conquest. Thus if we simply shout at Bush and Co with no evidence the mud will simply hit the government in general and not the specific individuals corrupting it. Thus raising peoples disgust with government in the long run. I don't know if you have noticed but we Dems tend to favor government as a means of improving things. This would be bad for us.

Bush is like a tick. He has his head embedded in our flesh and we need to get him out of there. We can't just pick him off as it will leave his head stuck in there to infect the office. We can't leave him there as he is sucking us dry. We need a clean hit to get him out entirely with no befouling of the office.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:36 PM
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38. But how do we know he LIED purposely
instead of just being flat out wrong. We need to prove that he purposely LIED to the American people.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 04:07 PM
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40. Love it as always
Will, you have such a talent with tying it all together in such a concise way. Even without Wilkinson, there's a very strong case against this "cabal." Live, learn, and continue on with your wonderful gift.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 04:12 PM
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41. Your usual great, cut-to-the chase essay, Will.
So, if WMD was a lie, what was the purpose of committing hundred of thousands of American troops to Iraq? Let the speculation begin!

Puerile hate of Saddam?
Control of the Oil?
No bid contracts for heavyweight Republican sponsers?
New bases to replace our eviction from Saudi Arabia?
Opening salvo in the PNAC plan?

All of the above?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 04:21 PM
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42. All of the above n/t
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 04:46 PM
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43. AWESOME
I'm emailing this to everyone I know. I don't know how to thank you for putting this together Will--it's simply stupendous.

Dirk
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:59 PM
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45. LINK for this article on truthout
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