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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:14 AM
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Ashcroft Asserts Executive Privilege Concerning Torture Memo?
I thought only the President could do that?!?!?!?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:20 AM
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1. He's a member of the Executive Branch....plus he's a good Christian
:eyes:
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:27 AM
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5. you are half right.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:30 AM
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7. AG represents both executive and legislative branch........
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 09:36 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
and because of this he is the only member of the presidents cabinet who is NOT given the title "secretary"



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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:36 AM
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8. How so?
He is the head of the Dept. of Justice. That falls under the Executive Branch. Right now he is being questioned by the Legislature.

He answers to the President, not a Senator or Representative.
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:20 AM
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2. these people are a law unto themselves
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:22 AM
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3. Where did you hear that?
Do you have a link?

The last thing I heard was that he did not assert executive privilege and that was the reason he was treading very close to being in contempt of congress.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:23 AM
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4. Just trust him.
Why can't you get that through your head? :spank:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:28 AM
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6. He didn't assert Executive Privilege, he stated categorically that he..
was not asserting that privilege but was also not releasing the memos to congress.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:39 AM
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9. he canNOT assert "exectuive privledge" becuse he represnts the.......
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 09:50 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
legislative branch also...that is why he is the only presidential cabinet member NOT given the title "Secretary"


opps my bad.....
At one time the Attorney General gave legal advice to Congress as well as the President but this stopped by 1819

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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:40 AM
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10. they called him general...that sounded strange to me...
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:41 AM
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11. It was interesting that he was asked, during the hearing, if he was...
exerting executive privilege when he has no authority to do so. I wonder if the intent was to see if the White House had exerted that privilege?
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:12 AM
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17. the way I heard it
Senator Kennedy was allowed to ask on Senator Biden's time if Ashcroft was exerting executive privilege directed by *Bush. Ashcroft said, "no, blah blah blah' is that where he tried to re-quote FDR's Attorney General? I found that laughable and generic (as did Biden) at least Biden said it was generic.
Biden told Ashcroft that would make him in contempt of congress if he refused to give the information in the memo. Looked to me as if Kennedy and Biden trapped him and he's jammed on the contempt of congress charge. I wish they'd of got him on the pResident told him to use Executive privilege.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:43 AM
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13. Please provide a source for that
When our country started out, the AG provided input to both the Exec. and Leg. branches, but that was changed almost 200 years ago.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:53 AM
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14. it was changed due to "work overload" in 1819
At one time the Attorney General gave legal advice to Congress as well as the President but this stopped by 1819


http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/United%20States%20Department%20of%20Justice
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:15 AM
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19. Sooooo...you're agreeing with me?
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 10:16 AM by Vickers
:P
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:22 AM
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20. yes vickers you were correct
:7
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:41 AM
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12. Link please
he refused to invoke executive privelage yesterday.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:56 AM
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15. Here is a good article entitled "A Brief History of Executive Privilege...
FROM GEORGE WASHINGTON THROUGH DICK CHENEY":

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20020206.html

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:02 AM
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16. No, Ashcroft didn't invoke EP yesterday
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 10:02 AM by supernova
I don't know exactly what he was invoking beyond his own superior obstinacy, but it wasn't Executive Privilege.
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LiberalForEver Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:13 AM
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18. Ashcroft was envoking Exec Priv
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 10:14 AM by kippm99
Although only the President can envoke Executive Privledge, Ashcoft envoked the principal when he said a president should be able to get private advice from his adviors in a mannor that would ensure the confidentiality of that communication.

So Ashcroft denied producing the memos is question based on executive priviledge that he doesn't have. Bush has said he wants to get to the bottom of the abuse scandal but I guess that doesn't mean that he and his administration will follow morality and the laws.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:22 AM
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21. No. He definitely said he WASN'T invoking Executive Privilege.
The slimy creature gave as his excuse for refusing to release the memos as protecting the confidentiality of presidential advisors.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 10:25 AM
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22. Given that Cheney has claimed Executive Privilege re Energy Policy...
meetings and the case is before the USSC, I'd say the "jury" is still out as to who can and cannot claim the privilege.
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