MSNBC LIVE - NOW -- Hear Bush's Live Feed during his speech!

[Eloriel]

I can't believe it, but it's there.

[Eloriel]

1. It's unbelievable. He's getting his speech read TO him

and then he repeats it, phrase after phrase. It's UNBELIEVABLE. Tune in.

[whyzayker]

2. It's happening on CNN too!

n/t

[whyzayker]

7. So....

WHY is he pretending to read it?

[Kellanved]

21. Same thing on CNN international and Euronews

But I think there is a simple explanation: We're hearing the feed intended for the translators (The Speech is translated simultaneously on the German news networks).

[JohnnyRingo]

On CNN, too

I'm hearing the speech before he says it
Is this just the audio feed beating the video link to the sat ?

[VolcanoJen]

19. No, the guy in the earpiece is NOT Bush.

The guy in the earpiece has a different accent... he's feeding lines!!

[Stephanie]

137. I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE SEPTEMBER 11TH 2001

I heard it on September 11th, in NYC, on ABC, in the evening speech in the Oval Office. Audio error and you could hear the guy feeding him his lines. A friend in Boston heard it too.

[OpSomBlood]

3. The last few weeks have been like Christmas.

And now we have video proof that he's an empty talking head. This is wonderful.

[Eloriel]

8. It certainly is

I can't believe they're not cutting away or something.

[Kimber Scott]

4. It's the same on CNN

Gawd! How embarrassing!

[LittleApple81]

5. I can't right now because I am on C-Span-2 with the bookclub. Could

you give more details? Can you hear the echo, or something like that?

[Eloriel]

12. Someone is reading every single phrase and then he repeats it

It's amazing

[LittleApple81]

25. Thanks. n/t

[Eric J in MN]

6. someone is telling him the words? (nt)

nt

[KittyWampus]

14. sounds like a prerecording of someone reading script

and first you hear the recording, then you hear and see bush reading.

[KittyWampus]

OMFG!, They Aren't Correcting IT!!

holy crap

[Walt Starr]

9. It's his FUCKING EAR PIECE!!

THEY'VE PICKED UP HIS EAR PIECE!!!

[JohnnyRingo]

23. It WAS his earpiece !

He pulled it out immediatly....This is like a plot to a scary movie

[peekaloo]

10. are any of you taping this?

[Eloriel]

16. Regrettably, no

[VolcanoJen]

34. Yes, Yes, Yes! I hit "record" on the Tivo as soon as I figured out...

... what was happening!

[peekaloo]

54. and it was/is TWO distinct voices? (Boo$h and puppeteer?)

this is SWEET!

[Eloriel]

67. Yes, and his voice and the other one overlapped on many

occasions.

[Walt Starr]

71. And Bush stumbled over what was being read perfectly!!!!

We need a recording of this to be all over the web!!!!

[thebigidea]

76. I'm playing my tape of this back, there isn't a distinct voice...

its the same feed, same flubs, same phrasing - just distorted and out of sync. What seems like an "emperor has no clothes" moment was just an audio fuckup.

Drat. It would've made for a fine video.

[VolcanoJen]

93. I'm playing mine back too, and I think you're right, thebigidea.

Damn! Well, it was fun while it lasted... :-)

[peekaloo]

95. Shit! Fucking echo in DimBulb's head!

x(

[thebigidea]

97. now THAT would be an interesting flub...

his inner monologue being broadcast by some THEY LIVE type technology...

BUSH: "And I call on all free peoples to uh... err... sure would like to play some Tetris now, do a coupla lines uhhhh... Karl? Karl, I'm scared... uh..."

[Stephanie]

138. PLEASE, I need a copy of that

Is there a way to download to CD or DVD? I really need a copy of that. I have been asking for 2 YEARS if anyone heard this on 9/11. I heard it that night.

[Nite Owl]

11. Wow, this is weird. They don't even

know it's happening.

[whyzayker]

17. OMG!

They've cranked up the volume!!! It's louder than Bush!!!!

[LittleApple81]

20. Our country is just f****d!!!!! How embarrassing.

But I love to have PROOF that he wears an earpiece. I would have liked if it had happened in the USA... It is like washing your dirty laundry in public.

[Eloriel]

36. He just picked one up and put it in his ear -- presumably for

the English translation of Chirac. It was black.

[wndycty]

13. Is anyone taping this. . .

. . .at first a thought it was his audio coming overseas before his speech. But a few times I could swear that what he said was different from the feed.

[VolcanoJen]

15. OMG!! This is creepy!!

Bush pretends to be reading his paper on the podium, but the guy in his earpiece is feeding him every line, with emphasis!!

I can't believe some WH staffer hasn't screamed at MSNBC to pull the plug on this yet!!! Can the President not even fucking READ?????

[Eloriel]

OMG -- EVEN WHO TO CALL ON!!!

Unfuckingbelievable.

"Now. Jim Angle"

[Eloriel]

22. EVEN HIS ANSWERS TO ANGLE

This is just getting surreal!

[charlie]

32. Are you taping this?

Slam a tape into the VCR, pleeeease!

[Eloriel]

38. I don't have a tape anywhere around. Sorry.

[KittyWampus]

39. Even IF They Claim It Was Translator Reading Junior's Script

HOW WOULD TRANSLATOR KNOW WHO BUSH WOULD CALL ON?

[charlie]

18. There it is!

I've long been convinced that that's the way he's always done speeches (and Q and A sessions). This is way cool, I wish I could see it.

[Eric J in MN]

31. Someone please record this.

nt

[Cush]

24. WTF?

[Fenris]

26. I listened to the whole thing

I think the audio feed has some kind of reverse echo.

[KittyWampus]

59. Different Voice... NOT An Echo

[liveoaktx]

109. NOT an echo- I didn't hear the speech but the clip afterwards and

we Tivo'd it. The voice is 15 seconds BEFORE BUSH SPEAKS. It is eerie and creepy, and obvious that he was being fed what to say. AND it's not his voice. Po' Po' Bushie.

[Ripley]

27. Yall need to step away from the bong.

That's just some goofy technical echo. It's his words and his voice reverberating somehow.

[LandOLincoln]

Exactly! I noticed the same thing with Chirac. n/t

[Eloriel]

43. ROTFL n/t

It's gone now -- Damn.

[KittyWampus]

64. Nope. NOT The Same. There Were Differences

and if it was a translator, no way for him to know who junior would call and what the question/answer would be.

This was LIVE and it was NOT due to transcontinental time delay.

[Walt Starr]

68. Yes, Bush stumbled where the ear piece did not!

Bush stumbled over several words where the ear piece was perfect.

[Ripley]

72. That's not what I heard.

But I went to the TV late. I missed that....all I heard was his sniveling stuttering slurring asscrack voice once kind of fuzzy, then his lips saying the same thing.

[John_H]

145. Funny, but that's not what's going on, pardner.

Chimp is leaving out and adding numerous words.

[Cush]

28. He just adjusted it

[VolcanoJen]

29. OK, I put the bong down.

:-) It was just a silly glitch. :-)

[wndycty]

30. We need an expert. . .

. . .I am not sure if that is a feed or the problem of the feed with it going overseas. It sure is funny as hell. I am not sure if he is being fed. . .it sounds like an audio problem. But it sure is embarassing.

[seabeyond]

33. has to be the translator, dont you think.

reading from the script. i mean, but they are asking questions. so those would have to have been givin ahead. hm

[LittleApple81]

42. I don't know. But whatever, the appearance is of total stupidity. Hiding,

hiding... in shame...

[Kellanved]

49. Yup - either the translator or for the translators

The speech is translated simultaneously into several languages.

[KittyWampus]

80. Then How Does Translator Know AHEAD OF TIME

who Bush will call and the answers?

THIS IS LIVE!

Translator should be BEHIND Bush not BEFORE him.

Sound lapses BEHIND visual images.

[Kellanved]

98. for show-speeches this is actually pretty normal

Especially if it is like this one: speakers in two languages, real-time translations into almost all major world languages.
Either the Translators get the speech beforehand or they get an audio feed a few seconds ahead (either by delayed broadcast or someone else reading it to them).

My theory is as follows: the Networks bought the transmission from French TV. The French station mixed up the audio feeds and transmitted the translation-helper along with the main audio. Probably they got the speech before Bush started, but not in time to translate it (to prevent leaks).

[seabeyond]

100. also watched bush reply and put his own word in then

threw in the answer. so isnt a double feed. bush talking seperate of answer. hm

[Eloriel]

75. Absolutely NOT the translator -- unless he's also psychic

And knew exactly what Bush was going to say before he said it. INCLUDING who he was going to call on.

[Ripley]

90. You guys are missing the glitch.

Live doesn't always mean LIVE. Overseas transmissions are often on a delay. You can quite clearly watch the delay when some reporters use videophones from Iraq.

I'm not a techie...so we need to have someone with mroe knowledge explain how this can happen. But I swear to me it was his voice. Not someone immitating him either. It was the Chimp.

[seabeyond]

102. on and off i heard the same voice,

but not all the words. also there was a part where an answer was given, and bush threw his own word before saying the answer. so wasnt exact copy

[Kellanved]

105. Although I believe in a simple glitch,

I have to add: Bush had the Person reading his speech, Chirac did not.
(I watched American/International (CNNi) European (Euronews), German and French networks - same effect on each of them )).

I think it is a glitch introduced at the French station actually providing the pictures/sound.

[Ripley]

110. OOOOOOOOhhhhh.

Now that sounds swell! He was sabotaged by the French TV guys!!! I love it.

The French don't even have a word for saboteur." -- George W. Bush

[DS1]

122. Or the contents of the speech were provided beforehand

Wow, what a concept

[Stephanie]

139. I HEARD THIS ON 9/11/01 - I have been asking others about it since then

I heard it on ABC - his speech. An online friend in Boston also heard it. A distinct voice feeding him his lines.

[Changenow]

140. I want to see a tape of today.

It must have been nothing but I'd like to see it anyway.

[VolcanoJen]

35. So, now Earpiece Guy is feeding him his ANSWERS?!??

Is this really happening????

[Ripley]

41. No.

Listen to the words...they are his from his mouth, same cadence etc. Somehow this "live" feed is delayed and the echo is coming first. I've seen similar screwy things from reporters in Iraq using videophones.

[VolcanoJen]

53. The earpiece didn't really sound like Bush, though...

... very, very interesting. I Tivo'd it, and I think you may be right, Ripley. But isn't it completely weird??

[Ripley]

58. Yes it is definitely weird, but

I think it sounded just like his shitty simpleton smirky, jagged, whiny, frat-boy snotty voice sounds.

[VolcanoJen]

85. lol! snotty voice

:D

[SeveneightyWhoa]

45. It was his voice.

It wasn't an "earpiece guy". I think it was just a pre-recorded tape of Bush doing the speech beforehand.

He can't even read a speech correctly without being prompted on how exactly to say his words!

[KittyWampus]

88. It Was Absolutely NOT Junior's Voice

[SeveneightyWhoa]

103. Um, yes, it was.

It was his voice. It sounded like him. Unless he has a twin brother we don't know about, it was him.

[BeachBuckeye]

61. Somebody please call our show today with details

if you get it verified. "The Guy James Show" www.theguyjamesshow.com
1-888-602-7500,7501, 7502, 7503, 7504,
Between 4 and 4:30 eastern time please. This would be great material if true.

[Eloriel]

83. Yes, absolutely. Even the answers. n/t

[LandOLincoln]

37. I think it's a simultaneous translation or a glitch in the satellite feed.

The same thing seems to be happening with Chirac. Plus, if you listen carefully, the voice apparently reading *'s speech to him sounds suspiciously like * himself.

[Eloriel]

48. Nope, not in the least

Didn't sound like Bush at ALL. You guys are wrong.

[LandOLincoln]

70. It sounded exactly like Bush. Y'all are getting your panties in

a twist over a technical glitch of some kind.

And once again, the same thing happened when Chirac spoke. You gonna claim he's getting his lines fed to him too?

I wish you were right about this, but you're not. Give it up.

[Ripley]

81. Gotta agree.

I heard the fuzzy words coming before Chirac opened his mouth too. Now why would it happen for both if it was a conspiracy? I think the Frenchman loathes the Stupidhead, surely he wouldn't be "in" on it.

[nuxvomica]

91. I first notice the problem with Chirac

Cuz when I tuned in, he was speaking. Then I heard it more clearly with * speaking. The other voice sounds exactly like *, IMHO.

[Eloriel]

130. I didn't hear it when Chirac spoke -- in fact, quite the opposite

and it was shortly after Chirac took his first question that the phenomenon stopped.

[LosinIt]

51. if it's a translation it would be in French

unless his english is so bad they think he needs to be translated into normal English

[playahata1]

77. If Bush's speech is being translated into French,

understand that French is a very precise language. Whatever the French word for "idiot" is, you can bet that is the term that will be used.

[spotbird]

84. Exactly, there is no reason to translate Bush to English.

Well, maybe there is, but that's beside the point.

It almost certainly has to do with the translators, but only because they were broadcast also.

[Kimber Scott]

40. But then his own voice was broadcasting his answer to

the reporters question before he answered it. I think it was a broadcasting delay problem, or something. The speech part did seem like it was someone else's voice reading the speech, though. Something's really weird.

[Walt Starr]

44. OMFG, HE'S ADLIBBING NOW!!!

HE JUST INSULTED THE NATION OF FRANCE!!!!

[LittleApple81]

55. How? n/t

[Walt Starr]

65. French journalist aske d a question quoting Kennedy

"Every man has two nations, his own and France."

Bush responded with, "I'll paraphrase Mr. Kennedy, There's America and Texas."

[playahata1]

107. NO! HE DID NOT SAY THAT!

God help us all.

[Walt Starr]

111. Yes, he did say it

I'm so ashamed!

[SammyWinstonJack]

127. Arrogant POS!

:argh:

[nuxvomica]

46. I think it's some sort propagation delay

Another audio feed is being transmitted a little bit earlier. You can hear it when Chirac speaks too but it's harder to make out because the translator audio is also playing.

[LandOLincoln]

94. Yep. Somebody hit the wrong button(s), that's all. Too bad, too.

For a minute I thought we really had the SOB.

[No Mandate Here.]

144. I am late now, but the questioners had the same glitch

their speech was "pre-broadcast" also. Maybe a satellite problem?

[cindyw]

47. To paraphrase Kennedy! There is America and there is Texas. Kennedy

was shot in Texas! What the **** was that!

[Wind Dancer]

56. I am shocked, what does it mean??????????

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

66. Asked him if he was a terrorist and he yanked out his earpiece,

interrupted the reporter, and copped a big ol' Lone Star State of Mind. "How does what happened at Abu Ghraib make you any better than Saddam" or something to that effect. The man was PISSED.

:evilgrin:

[jackstraw45]

115. "There's an old saying in Tennessee...."

There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."

http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/images/bushfoolhr.wmv

[trof]

50. Catching some serious merde from the Froggie press.

Or maybe it's just an "unidentified brown substance"?

[Judi Lynn]

52. This is so interesting. I can't wait to hear what the final version is.

Thanks to you DU'ers who wrote about it, and congratulations to Volcano Jen. Wow!

DU'ers have actually talked about this thing being possible before, here. People have been suspecting it.

[Eloriel]

62. I know -- I never quite believed it.

I freakin' believe it NOW.

EVEN WHO TO CALL ON! Even the casual rhetoric of "Now" before calling on "Jim Angle."

[qwertyMike]

57. He just pronounced Monsieur

as Mon-shure

[mopaul]

60. laughing, smirking and lying us all into hell

dangerously stupid apeman

[m-jean03]

63. delete

[Eloriel]

69. I'm wondering if someone set this up --

on purpose?

It was DELICIOUS. Absolutely delicious.

[LittleApple81]

78. I don't know about delicious...my country is like a relative to me in some

ways. I don't want it to do bad. And UNFORTUNATELY :cry: Bush* is our official representative. I don't think he could be brilliant, and compassionate, and a good orator... but at least don't expose us like this.

[spinbaby]

89. Vive la France!

I think someone did set him up. I also think this will be universally ignored by the media.

[DoctorMyEyes]

73. Oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At first I thought it was an echo. But I don't think it is.

This is hillarious, and an embarassment at the same time.
They accidentally fed Bushs' earpiece feed into the audio? Maybe because they needed that setup for translating Chiracs' statements.

Did Bush just call Gregory "Mon cher"?

Isn't that a term of endearment that may be somewhat inappropriate on many levels.

If he would just come out of the closet maybe he wouldn't feel the need to blow up 3rd world countries.

[Bozita]

74. Hey kids! It's two earpieces in one. One for translations and the other ..

... for learning what to say.

Earlier rumors of this kind of deception are now substantiated.

[VolcanoJen]

79. Making fun of David Gregory again: "Monsieur Gregory"

:puke:

[ConsAreLiars]

82. The same audio phenomena happened with reporter's questions

before it was fixed. That is to say, we heard one track of audio slightly before the video-synced main channel was broadcast. There was no difference between the pre-echo on smirky's monologue and that which occurred with the first reporter's question, except the echo was in the reporter's voice "before" he spoke rather than chimpy's.

[LittleApple81]

86. In a way, I am relieved. Not that I did not want proof of Bush*'s

earpiece, but not in FRANCE.

[rumguy]

87. so this is not Bush getting his speech spoon fed to him?

[ConsAreLiars]

108. Right - whatever happened could be heard when the reporter spoke

I watched on CNN-Int'l. I suspect there was one audio-only feed going by land-line with the audio-video broadcast data going the longer satellite route, but that's just a guess. What is clear is that the same thing happened with the first reporter as well.

[rumguy]

113. good catch - thanks

I had a feeling that Duers were seeing wanted they wanted to see and not the actual reality.

I've noticed this phenom on DU before. I find it disturbing.

[Ripley]

114. You're not the only one.

I do too.

[Eloriel]

133. Not so disturbing -- or shouldn't be -- when you've got folks

who aren't technically proficient in that area and thus have ONLY the theory that many already hold that Bush wears an earpiece to get someone to feed him his remarks and answers.

Some here say this was a glitch that somehow fed his speech ahead of the video. I'd like to hear more about that from people who claim to know all about it. I've never heard of it (why two audio tracks?? and how did they/could they get mixed up?) And I've certainly never seen it before. Some say it wasn't happening with Chirac. I agree. So why with Bush only?

They jury's still out AFAIC. I don't think it's at ALL implausible to believe that Bush gets his answers -- and possibly his speeches -- fed to him. He probably also has a written speech in front of him at the same time. We ALL know he hates to read (probably dyslexic). So if someone isn't even aware that a glitch like this (if it was a glitch) was technically feasible, of COURSE that person is going to jump on the one theory that s/he is aware of.

[spotbird]

125. It is true that the anti Bush bias here is consuming.

It is hard to understand the total distrust of the people here to this administration. Who knows from what it could stem? Maybe that *&Co. have lied about every single major policy issue so far?

Did you see what happened, even the freepers had questions.

[FizzFuzz]

92. oh drat

can someone post a link if it gets put on the web?

Thanks

[Medium Baby Jesus]

96. It's his own voice. Glitch. n/t

[susu369]

99. Oh please, you should know that is Gawd

talking to him....

[Eloriel]

104. Yep, I think you're right.

;-)

[KittyWampus]

106. Viola! The Answer, Of Course....

you so smart :D

[Bluebear]

101. "Mon-shoor"....how continental n/t

[Berserker]

118. This is easy to clear up I was watching also

and who would answer questions and not make any sense like dimwit does. I fail to believe there is someone even dummer than dubya telling him how to answer questions.

[spotbird]

136. That's the best proof that it is technical.

But it is still strange that it hasn't been explained by any of the broadcasters.

[VolcanoJen]

112. I just watched the whole thing again... I think it was a glitch.

Earpiece-Chimpy makes the same mistakes as Podium-Chimpy.

I believe it was some kind of strange, overseas technical delay, some kind of feedback. It seemed like the strangest thing while watching it live, but on second viewing, I don't think there was a seperate "earpiece guy" feeding Chimpy lines.

It was pretty funny there for a minute, though, especially when they cranked up the "Earpiece-Chimpy" volume!! :-)

[KittyWampus]

116. "Ear Piece Chimpy" You Just Coined A Great Nickname For Junior!

:D

I used to work in television... we had EVERYTHING worked out beforehand to make sure no glitches.

That Junior's advance team didn't have things worked out seems REALLY hard to contemplate. Especially since he's such a control freak.

It is VERY odd that the visual would be BEHIND the sound.

[Ripley]

120. Read post 105...our friend Kellanved is in Berlin.

He watched it on European channels and says he thinks it was a glitch "introduced" by the French TV channel carrying the speech.

LOL! Funniest damn payback.

[VolcanoJen]

124. That was easily the glitchiest press conference EVER, wasn't it?

Payback, indeed. }(

[Judi Lynn]

123. It oughta be good for some laughs, anyway, as clips on news shows.

Just because it may not be the case here, it DOESN'T mean our suspicions are unfounded!

Anyone remember reading that during his pResidential campaign, Karen Hughes actually used to stand down in front of the platforms and actually mouth the words when he would get stuck?

It's already been done, in 2000!

People wondered if he would simply collapse when she returned to Texas, as he had depended on her so completely for everything.

Here she is, at his side, when he was the _Governor of Texas:

[Selwynn]

117. this thread his fucking hilarious...

[DoctorMyEyes]

119. Thanks Eloriel for alerting me so I could see for myself...

I thought it was an echo OR a recording of Bush himself reading the speech. But I'd swear that at several points there were stumbles that Bush made that didn't match the echo or whatever it was. I can't be totally sure because I have the flu and am full of OTC cold meds... lol

Whatever this was, it HAS to be news doesn't it? How much you wanna make a five dollar bet it gets little or NO coverage.

[kentuck]

121. I think it was an international radio transmission....

that was being transmitted at the same time and was ahead of the video - that usually has a 5-second or so delay...

[VolcanoJen]

126. Hey! I think we're all missing a very important point here.

That speech Chimpy just gave was utter and complete CRAP. Embarrassing, stupid, banal. Just another crap speech from the Chimp-in-Charge.

Can't wait for Act II, at 3:30 am EDT, when he delivers a so-not-stirring speech for the 60th Anniversary, reminding all of us how much we miss not only Clinton, but possibly Reagan, too.

:D

[KittyWampus]

128. Even The Pope Droning In ITALIAN Is More Compelling

O8)

[rocktivity]

129. Someone post an audio link, PLEEEEEZZZEEEEE!!!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Spazito]

131. Whatever caused it, I am enjoying another failure...

when bush is trying to look "presidential". Another rovian opportunity to prop up his dummy shot to hell, the video can't be used in a bush ad. That, in itself, is worth it's weight in French francs!

[bushgottago]

132. Anybody record it and post it?

I want to download it.

[robbedvoter]

134. Missed it. Was there Iraq=WWII or did he behave?

[VolcanoJen]

135. He behaved, until he started ad-libbing, and insulted the nation of France

See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1724827&mesg_id=1724827

No mention of Iraq = WWII. I think he's saving that for Sunday's big speech. :D

[Changenow]

141. Wonder if he'll come back for the funeral.

This is a mix, things don't sound like they are going all that well over there so maybe he'll come home to bask in Reagan's glory.

[troublemaker]

142. The funeral won't be for a friggin' WEEK

They are going to stuff him and roll him around the country. For the first time I wish I lived in a Moslem (or conservative Jewish) country because he would have to be in the ground tomorrow.

[Changenow]

143. Is that for sure?

Man alive it is going to be a long week.