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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:00 AM
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An Iraqi agent *did* meet with Atta.
At least, it appears that way. See: http://slate.msn.com/id/2091354 and http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_atta.htm

If anyone has any skeptical resources, please post them.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:07 AM
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1. Here's a resource...
Mohammed Atta had $100,000 wired to him from the head of Pakistani intelligence. So let's take our hand off it and get serious about who really has the connections to Al Qaeda.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:14 AM
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2. Wow, one Iraqi agent?
Compared to 15 of the 19 hijackers being from Saudia Arabia?

And their mastermind being a Saudi citizen?

And most of their money coming from Saudi Arabia?

Clearly, war in Iraq was justified. </sarcasm>
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:23 AM
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3. Still up for debate.
Edited on Wed May-26-04 08:25 AM by meatloaf
http://squawk.ca/lbo-talk/0205/0135.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/americas/1961668.stm

These articles and many others indicate that currently it is believed Atta was in the U.S. when the meeting in Prauge was supposed to have taken place.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:26 AM
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4. So?
Edited on Wed May-26-04 08:26 AM by DoYouEverWonder
That's like finding one sarin gas shell from 1990 and trying to claim that it's proof that Saddam had WMD's.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:26 AM
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5. These aren't exactly recent stories
The CIA discredited this link a long time ago, and I don't see anything in here that would lead me to believe that any new information had come out.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:31 AM
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6. I wish I had the mp3 of that statement from YOUR fearless leader (W):
Edited on Wed May-26-04 08:33 AM by robbedvoter
"There is no connection between Sadam and 911". Since I don't, you'll have to listen to randi Rhodes like everyone else. She plays it often ;-)
meanwhile, I raise your old, discredited news with a Rummy statement right after 911: "Saddam better be guilty of this, because we are getting him anyway"
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:45 AM
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7. Atta's in Miami-airportvideo does not show him/2003 MSN story refuted/ and
Edited on Wed May-26-04 08:53 AM by papau
Epstein is giving us "implications" of an event that did not happen?Tell Epstein to look at the Prague airport video again and note that Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani is never shown with anyone of interest - and not with ATTA - on the videos.

Sounds like Bush World.

If this was a Sci-Fi series I'd click over to a reality program - but damn - we have to live in a world where the media points out a Bush lie once - somewhere - and then the fact that it was a lie is forgotten - and the actual lie lives on forever.

I love our media!

:-)
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:18 AM
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8. "at least it appears that way"... WTF?
It really *doesn't* appear that way. This story is so debunked inside and outside the government that it's seldom even mentioned anymore because it's such an embarrassment to the people who were peddling it. (Even the SLATE article offered here is as much about the cultish durability of the story as about any argument for it's ultimate truth.)

Why *are* you peddling this old story? I cannot imagine you're having a hard time finding 'skeptical resources.' In order to find the two links provided you would have to wade through hundreds or thousands of skeptical links.

This story is a prime example of people seeing a newspaper headline or other datum they really really want to be true and that datum becomes like religious dogma to them. If the same paper retracts the story the very next day that only means the government "got to them." No subsequent evidence can counter that one headline to the true believers. And with the Internet the bogus information seems to have the same weight as anything else.

This story came from Czech intelligence right after 9/11 when people were running around like headless chickens. They reversed themselves shorty thereafter with a big, "never mind..." The FBI and CIA, even after being ordered to go over this angle ad nauseum and with clear signals that the WH wanted it to be found true, continue to agree that there was no meeting.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 10:22 AM
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9. But the Czechs did *not* reverse themselves.
They've been insisting on a link this whole time, as the Slate story shows.

This still doesn't prove that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, and it doesn't justify the war by a long shot. But it's not something that we should just dismiss out of hand.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 10:27 AM
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10. Photographic proof Saddam was involved!


ps. Don't be an idiot! I mean that in the nicest way, of course.

:hi:
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