An Electoral Defeat Alone is not an Acceptable Punishment

[Stevendsmith]

Removal from office should be a prelude to imprisonment for this gang of lying, murdering scoundrels.

Dick Cheney must not be permitted to return to the riches of the private sector. He and his sock puppet must be prosecuted and placed behind bars.

[tom_paine]

1. I agree.

[Alerter_]

7. $100 says Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz will never be prosecuted

I expect Kerry to win, and I will wager anyone $100 that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz will never be prosecuted. I think Cambone will be the fall guy.

[tom_paine]

9. Though I hope I'm wrong, I agree...so no bet

[Beetwasher]

2. Kerry Should Immediately Launch Investigations

upon taking office and hold the admin. accountable for their crimes.

It's the only way to regain some of our credibility with the rest of the world and after all, it would be the right thing to do.

[Kahuna]

11. I agree. No way can he let them get away with it. If he does..

the repukes will only come after him the same way they went after Clinton.

[Cyrano]

3. As much as I'd like to see these thugs tried and jailed

it would set a precedent that would come back to haunt us.

What if Kerry wins (one or two terms) and they win the next time around. They'll invent some reason to put Kerry in jail. They came very close to doing it to Clinton.

[Kahuna]

12. Then no president can ever be prosecuted for treason?!?! That's crap.

We need to set the precedent that our treasury is not for the personal use of the president and his "investors." We need to let them know that you don't get away with stealing elections. We need to let them know that you don't start a war based on trumped up charges.

[maggrwaggr]

4. I agree 100%. They should be arrested and sent to the Hague

if America doesn't have the balls to do it, let the international community.

These people are gangsters, plain and simple.

[Hornito]

5. No it's not. They should face trial, and when (not if) convicted

should face the end of a rope, or a firing squad. I have written Kerry's office several times demanding to know his position on pardons for this bunch, and on investigations and prosecutions for their crimes. To date, I have not received a response (no surprise here). I want to know that Kerry will do everything he can to seek justice for the people of this nation, Iraq, and the rest of the world, by exacting proper retribution from these criminal thugs.

[Jacobin]

6. Um, "pardon me" but the president has the power of pardon

Which is why these lying snakes are sleeping well at night.

[Cyrano]

8. He can't pardon himself

[Kahuna]

13. He can't pardon himself for a crime he hasn't yet been charged with.

A blanket pardon? I don't think so.

[ThoughtCriminal]

17. There is the Nixon escape plan

"Lame Duck Resignation - Pardons for Everyone"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1657524

And yes, numerous pardons have been granted to individuals who were not charged yet (see Nixon). I do not know if there has been a court ruling on that.

[damnraddem]

10. First, we need a Kerry Administration.

Then we need to sign onto the War Crimes Tribunal. Then we need to cooperate with it. Any indictments under a Kerry Administration would be seen as 'political.' These were war crimes, an international concern, the response to them should be international as well.

[Kahuna]

14. Nope. We need to take care of our own mess. Plus, Americans won't

go for us handing our president over to the international community.

[Karenina]

15. You could do it... like...

NOW. THAT would be nice. Frog March the whole *crew outta YOUR HOUSE. The whole world would heave a huge sigh of relief. Maybe the Amis get their sense, sensibilities and MOJO back...

These *creeps have set off a chain reaction of violence. They would like nothing better than to unleash their technological toys in an attempt to "contain" it. Fan the flames! Wild West Shootout in Najaf! Film at 11!

Meanwhile YOU are PAYING FOR IT. Errraaa... getting GOUGED FOR IT with nothing but some NASSY, NASSY porno pix to show for your "efforts."

Time to step back and regroup. Only way to do that is to remove government control from the *CLEARLY INCOMPETENT.

Like I say, NOW would work for me.

[PATRICK]

16. And it's not about revenge

which is also a distraction. These forces and people in particular have been a plague upon democracy and a nexus for every destructive thing on the planet- all in cause of claiming exactly the opposite. Law and reason must be restored and this power must be taken away from them.

After WWI the right wing industrialists were necklaced but their holdings were safeguarded for their vengeful offspring with the ironic aid of American financiers like the war profiteering Bushes. They came back with WWII. The corporations were finally crushed and broken up but the money was still sheltered for these chosen ones who are still backing up this antique right wing revanche within the apathetic luxury of the progressive West.

That example is more than an example since their counterparts, never burned or held to account, are people with more than a few historic connections, the same ideological faith, and an ongoing interest in escaping accountability to conquer another day.

By now it has become a routine for them. It is absolutely necessary to break it up once and for all, because we have more important fish to fry with this planet- unless we want a slaughterhouse headed to extinction.

[TahitiNut]

18. Unless and until Americans are willing and eager to prosecute ...

... traitorous, corrupt, lying parasites like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Ashcroft, Perle, Libby, Rove, Rice, Chou, Card, and their ilk then we're still, as a nation, in the firm grasp of neofascism. No matter what the results of Election 2004, this country is so far down the path of neofascism that it'll take years, if not decades, of diligence to "change the hearts and minds" of We the People.

[trof]

19. I am nostalgic for tar and feathers.

An old custom for the punishment of humbugs, snake oil salesmen, and bunko artists that has of late (unhappily) fallen out of favor.

The acrid, but not unpeasant, odor or the tar...bubbling in a cast iron wash pot over a pine knot fire.
The squawking of the chickens being defeathered.
Plus the knowledge that there would be fried chicken for tonight's supper, and perhaps some of mother's good biscuits.
Ah the good old days.
Yes indeed.
;-)

[ElementaryPenguin]

20. Agreed. I hate when Bushler losing reselection is portrayed as worst

Fallout from this disasterous, illegal war!!

Disgusting! So - an incompetent, corrupt fuck up has to change jobs?? Boo-hoo! So very fucking sad! Thousands upon thousands are being murdered for nothing - but that criminal fuck losing his job (which he stole) now THAT'S sad!

How revolting is that??

:puke:
:argh:
:mad:

[Padraig18]

21. They'll all be pardoned, if Bush loses, so...

... there's not much point in worrying about it. :shrug: