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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:04 PM
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Poll question: Poll: Edwards Makes Kerry Viable in N.C. Does it change your VP choice?
Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) trails President Bush (news - web sites) in North Carolina, but a poll out Wednesday suggests Kerry could be competitive in the state if Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) were on the Democratic ticket.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=3&u=/ap/20040519/ap_on_el_pr/north_carolina_poll
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:06 PM
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1. No, it does not change my VP choice
Edwards was already my VP choice. This is yet another tangible reason why he's a good one.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:07 PM
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2. DITTO n/t
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:18 PM
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13. Third
JRE from the beginning.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:46 PM
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18. Tangible? Did You Even Investigate What The Poll Was Asking?
How the questions were asked and who they were actually polling?

Did you look to check how many people were asked?

Considering that none of the above information was given anywheres there is NO REASON TO GIVE ANY CREDENCE TO THIS INFORMATION.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:40 PM
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23. of course it would be credible if Clark was leading
then there would be no questions from Mr. Cryingshame


I think you're in denial.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:08 PM
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3. Didn't vote


I believe that Clark can help us win a lot of states.
If not Clark, I am a big Edwards fan.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:15 PM
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4. I voted yes, but JE has been my choice.
Kerry needs someone to interject some exuberance into the campaign, and Edwards can sure do that! He's almost as good at revving the room as Clinton is (I did say almost!).

In addition, he's intelligent, not a saturated (life long) politician, and he looks GOOD on TV. I know, you might not care about looks, but way too many voters chose their candidates based on charisma.
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stinkeefresh Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:16 PM
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5. just one state
I think Kerry is already viable nation-wide, and will only get more-so. I don't think his VP choice is going to amount to a hill of beans unless it's astonishingly bad.

That said, I don't like this "whoever is the veep at the end of two terms is the auto-candidate". So I support a VP choice without such intense presidential aspirations.

I have also read that such a choice could help bring the Clinton faction and the Gore/Dean faction more in line with the Kerry campaign, since both camps have thier own ideas about 2012.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:24 PM
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6. I already chose Edwards for my VP vote.
I think he adds some warmth and down-homeness to the ticket. Kerry could use some of that southern charm... Edwards was my second choice in the primary, Howard Dean being my #1 guy. I think Kerry would be foolish to choose someone like Gephardt (tho supposedly labor likes him), or Bayh, or any of those blandos.. Edwards is a great choice.. Clark? Hmmm... I think Kerry needs to go more warm and fuzzy, though Clark's military background is good.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:28 PM
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7. It doesn't change my VP choice.
I think Edwards would be good even if he isn't my first choice.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:57 PM
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8. it's a pretty astonishing development
Edwards carries alot more weight down south than even I thought. For North Carolina to be in play is amazing.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:44 PM
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17. According To What? A Poll That Might Have Been A Pro-Edwards Push Poll?
there is NO INFORMATION GIVEN ABOUT THIS POLL.

As far as I can tell, it was done as an Edwards' Publicity Stunt.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:18 PM
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19. an edwards publicity stunt?
why does this poll anger you? be happy, the dems can take NC!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:27 PM
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20. Just for you, cryingshame: (now will you quit jawboning?)

Mason-Dixon Poll: Bush Leads Kerry In N.C; Edwards On Ticket Makes It Even

POSTED: 3:24 pm EDT May 18, 2004
UPDATED: 4:33 pm EDT May 18, 2004

Republican incumbent George W. Bush leads Democratic challenger John Kerry in North Carolina, but according to a WRAL/Mason-Dixon Poll, if Kerry chooses Sen. John Edwards as his running-mate, the race in the state currently becomes a dead-heat.


Statewide, Bush is supported by 48% of voters, while Kerry is backed by 41%, independent Ralph Nader draws 3% and 8% remain undecided. With Edwards as Kerry's running-mate, the GOP ticket of Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney is favored by 46%, the Kerry/Edwards Democratic ticket gets 45%, Nader draws 2% and 7% are undecided.


-snip-

With Edwards on the Democratic ticket, he increases Kerry's support primarily among women (+5%), African-Americans (+7%) and Democrats (+4%) to make the race close.

The poll, conducted May 14 - 17, has a margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Bush Name Recognition:
George W. Bush is more personally popular than John Kerry at present. The President's favorable and unfavorable name recognition is relatively similar to what it was in November 2000 -- just before he won the state by 13 percentage points over Al Gore. This makes it appear that he would remain the favorite to carry North Carolina if Kerry does not choose Edwards as his vice presidential running-mate.

-snip-

Favorable Unfavorable Neutral Don't Recognize
George W. Bush 49% 38% 13% --


John Edwards 48% 31% 20%  1%


John Kerry 35% 36% 27%  2%


-snip-

If John Kerry chose John Edwards as his vice presidential running mate, would you vote for the Democratic ticket of Kerry and Edwards, the Republican ticket of Bush and Cheney, or the independent ticket headed by Ralph Nader?

State Men Women Whites Blacks Dems Reps Inds


Bush/Cheney 46% 50% 42% 56%  5% 22% 82% 43%


Kerry/Edwards 45% 41% 49% 34% 88% 67% 11% 48%
Nader  2%  3%  1%  2%  1%  2%  1%  5%
Undecided  7%  6%  8%  8%  6%  9%  6%  4%


http://www.wral.com/news/3319278/detail.html
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:00 PM
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9. God and Guns will win the day for Shrub
It don't matter if Christ was running against him.

They will use the old wedge issue's and the dumb fold will come back to junior.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:08 PM
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10. i cant vote in the poll
i dont mind edwards. I dont think he will be a liability. I also dont think that whatever he may bring in the Carolinas is a strong enough reason to choose him. The same way I dont think that picking Bob Graham, even if you think it would help with florida, is a good enough reason.

I would just like Kerry to pick a running mate that makes the ticket stronger. Unlike Gore who, by picking Joe Jerkman, weakened his ticket.

I think Edwards is OK. Lot of strengths domestically, not much baggage.
I think Clark would be OK. It would make the security/military strong in the mind of the typical goofball (moran).
I suppose Richardson might be ok.
The McCain option. He would have to switch parties and denounce Bushco. In the past I thought he was honest but some of the crap that he has gone along with the bush on is just unnacceptable.

Anyway. Thats my opinion but I cant vote because the 2 choices dont work for me.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:12 PM
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11. Not enough information
I would need to see comparisons with others on the ticket in several states - not just one. If another candidate helps in multiple states, then one particular state means less. Also, I'm far more concerned about swing states than pulling closer in the South.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:14 PM
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12. Doesn't change mine, nor Kerry's. media is trying hard to give Cheney
Edited on Wed May-19-04 05:15 PM by robbedvoter
another free ride, but Kerry knows better. And shouldn't we have all that edwards begging in the GD 2004? This is the forum about political REALITIES - facts & conspiracies on RELEVANT topics. Let's keep the blonde ambition in one place - so we visit it for a laugh, OK?
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:22 PM
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14. Edwards is a good choice regardless, as is Wes Clark...
I'd prefer Clark, with the way that events are going, but Edwards would make a terrific veep candidate, too.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:35 PM
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15. JE is my first choice for VP anyway.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:42 PM
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16. The Poll You Cite Is Probably NOT CREDIBLE
for all we know... maybe they just polled the 15 Edwards fans at the Edwards Fan Club of NC.

The poll does not include:

How many people were involved
Who these people were (registered/likely)
WHAT QUESTIONS WERE ASKED

Did this poll only contain Edwards' name? If so WHY. Maybe this is just some poll designed to create buzz around Edwards.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:37 PM
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22. blah blah blah
yes, the poll is as credible as any others and did list other candidates that did not do as well as Edwards.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:28 PM
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21. Trial Lawyer...Trial Lawyer...Trial Lawyer...chugga...chugga...
Choo Choo!
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:54 PM
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24. show me how edwards helps more with the EC than gephardt or clark
show the numbers, then let's discuss.

and don't forget, eventually i threw in with edwards in the primaries so i would like him as president.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:06 PM
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25. No! Because Kerry released the Edwards VP stuff to Media today....which
turned me off! Edward is a "no go" in my mind...and I live in NC. The Media..fishing around with Kerry's Operatives help are now pushing Edwards after they did their McCain thingy...

I hate the media and I don't want to participate in the "Edwards" push.

He is a "light weight" he didn't answer his $$$'s supporters about his vote for "Iraq Invasion." He attended $1,000 a plate dinners where I stood outside with protest sign even though being a "corporate donar" to him in his run..I had an "invitation in hand" to be "inside"....I chose to be "outside" in protest against his arrogance.

Edwards is an "arrogant" person. Would he make a good VP? IMHO, NO!

Would he bring the Southern vote in for Kerry...Probably...YES! He could push Kerry over the top in NC which does have a huge vote compared to where it was in "Selection 2000."

But, my PRINCIPLES would not allow me to give Edwards my vote, at this point. The NC Lawyers love him and support him with big Bucks, but he wouldn't get my "small business owner NC voter's vote."

But, then, I'm a NC Transplant...so who the hell cares what I say! :D
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