I Don't Want Rumsfeld to Resign

[QC]

No, I want him to be a rotting, stinking albatross around Chimpy's neck from now until November. I want Chimpy to cling stubbornly to him no matter how much uglier the revelations about torture and murder in the prisons become.

Think about it: if Chimpy cans Rumsfeld, this will be held up as an example of his firm, manly determination to hold everyone, even the mightiest, personally responsible for their failings. It will also further the lie that Bush himself had nothing to do with the whole mess. Problem solved, they will tell us, and the corporate media will agree.

No, we need to keep Rumsfeld around.

[indepat]

1. Agree wholeheartedly

[aquart]

2. Yes, but.....

I worry this is crashing too fast. I would have preferred it to happen after the nomination.

Right now I have no idea what the Republicans will do at the convention. They're angry and frightened for their jobs right now. They could lose more than the White House.

What do cornered rats do?

[xultar]

6. Yup! Cornered rats eat their own limbs, kill & eat their young. n/t

[Junkdrawer]

3. That way, when the inevitable "big terror attack" comes, he can be...

rehabilitated?

No, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cambone and the whole neo-con crew should go. Now.

[QC]

7. That's definitely a possibility.

But no more damaging, I would say, than Bush being able to put the whole torture issue behind him tomorrow on the grounds that those allegedly responsible for it have paid the price.

[xultar]

4. 100% correct. BushCo will get 'credit' for fixing Iraq make Rummy a goat

and they will campaign on wait till 2005 to see the sterling finish.

Keep his ugly rotting stinking devil ass right where it is.

[paranoid floyd]

5. I agree

Rumsfeld is a big three-coil turd sitting on the lawn of the Whitehouse. If someone cleans up the shit the stench goes away. The world needs to see this group as a whole. If some are chipped away, Bush looks 'decisive'.

Stick around Rummy. You've only got a few more months of work, might as well have some fun.

[slor]

8. I disagree...

particularly after *'s recent accolades to herr rumpfelt. It would make * look stupid (I know, he already does) to those that say he is a man of his word and loyal to those loyal to him.

[mitchum]

9. Absolutely! The buck shouldn't stop with Rumsfeld.

[progdonkey]

10. I disagree

I think that Bush is screwed no matter what he does with Rumsfeld. If he waits until even more abuse allegations come out to fire Rumsfeld, it won't be seen by most as an example of Bush's strong leadership, but of his adherence to polling numbers: Bush already knows all of the abuse allegations that could come out, but he will have waited until it became public before firing Rumsfeld; most will see that it's not the allegations that trouble Bush, but their exposure in the press.
If Rumsfeld had not told Bush about the abuse allegations before they became public, then Bush's only chance to fire him was the moment he found out. If Rumsfeld did keep him fully informed, then Bush has to explain why he did nothing (not the first time he's been in this position).
If Bush keeps Rumsfeld, he is endorsing the torture (a "superb job"); if he fires Rumsfeld now, Bush will be seen as lacking decisiveness and leaving it all up to poll numbers.
He's screwed. :-)

[newyawker99]

15. Hi progdonkey!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[H2O Man]

11. I agree 100%

But, if he does resign today, we still have reason to be happy. He remains an albatross. Bush will not can him; it is not in his personal make-up to be able to admit any error. If Rumsfeld resigns, it will not be because bush pressures him to leave. It will be due to divisions in the cheney/rove offices. It will weaken bush further. This is, in my opinion, proof of what the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. used to say: the moral arch of the universe may be wide, but it is just. You do reap what you sow.

[Kahuna]

12. I agree also. Think of how..

delicious it will be when it is revealed that Rummy himself rubberstamped the extreme interrogation policies. And George Bush has rubberstamped Rummy.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Co=Dependent Drip

If they didn't cough up Condi, no way Rummy goes unless he says so.

Instead I expect a steady drip of Chickenhawks...served up soon as those directly above try to hang on to their power. Look for Cambone to be Poster Boy #1.

[billbuckhead]

14. This is a war crime at the highest level of government

Rumsfeld and all the torturers must go for the sake of America's international standing.

[QC]

16. Exactly. And if Rummy is allowed to "retire" and go back

to private life, then the onus will be off Bush, Cheney, Feith, and the rest of the gang, and they will be free to go on as before because they "took responsibility" by canning only one player out of many.

[Jane Austin]

17. Me, too!

n/t