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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:23 PM
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Small Pox Vaccinations? FEMHA?
Why were the men and women of the Military innoculated for small pox? Why were our first responders in the medical community innoculated for small pox? Maybe, I have been reading way too many conspiracy theories, but does it really make sense. Why will the US have almost 300,000,000 small pox vaccinations for the American public.


What are the implications of FEMHA, why in the heck would you need this type of law?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:39 PM
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1. I don't like how vaccination-happy the US has become
Especially for stupid things like smallpox (which doesn't actually spread that easily, and isn't even that deadly)--and especially when they say that our vaccine wouldn't even work on different strains of smallpox. Anthrax of course, they want to vaccinate against. And I just read that now they want to vaccinate against ebola.

I don't know what they're up to, but I'm nearly sure the ol' gov doesn't have MY health or safety or happiness in mind, generally speaking.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:48 PM
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2. The effects of overvaccination have been seen on pets
There is something of an epidemic of vaccination-induced fibrosarcoma among cats these days. The AVA has only started addressing the issue in the past few years because these vaccination-site sarcomas often go unreported as being such. I personally know of two cats that have been so afflicted.
The fact is that the effects of vaccinations on large populations just can't be predicted with any surety. I worry about any substance that is injected directly into the bloodstream, especially if it is includes live organisms. It seems like Frankenstein science to me.
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:51 PM
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3. More information is needed.
I want a benefit/risk analysis before I'll allow myself to be vaccinated. Is the likelihood of widespread smallpox epidemic greater or less than the likelihood of side effects of the vaccine?

Anyway, when I was vaccinated in the 1950s that was supposed to be good for life. I want a better explanation from somebody to tell me why that isn't so.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:58 PM
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4. A nurse I know who was vaccinated in the '80s and didn't need it again
when her colleagues were vaccinated. Her pediatrician had continued smallpox vaccinations long past the time that it was popular. Apparently it is supposed to confer lifetime immunity.
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 04:41 PM
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5. Yeah small pox vaccination
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 05:00 PM by Wonder

I have participated on number of forums in the last almost two years now. Like the sarin nerve gas incineration contravercy (which hardly seems a contravercy really); the ramifications of the Bush's manditory small pox vaccine obsession against even the worthiest of medical research (even that of the Lupus foundation), especially when one considers the Emergency State Model's Health Powers Act (now embedded in Patriot Act II), as well as the kind of control this Act gives FEMA IF mandatory quarantine happens to need enforcing (which could happen in essence BECAUSE of the smallpox vaccine itself).....WELL.....

This is another one of those topics that get me to scratchin my head. Why? because it seems to me this is another topic wherein denial kicks in, and many people do not seem to want to discuss it. More times than not it is relegated to conspiracy theorizing or something that is another no thing .... People seem to feel quarantine in a big way is highly unlikely.... (of course I have been following Bush's small pox obsession --- small pox vaccine was ordered in bulk pre 9/11) BUT ...Okey dokey!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 07:31 PM
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6. Why the hell would
you need provisions to mandate innoculations, incarcerate for refusal, mandate a course of therapy, have citizens subject to confiscation of their real business, and personal property. Restrict movement and travel and all the other remedies that would be available to the government. What possibly could take place that would necessitate such actions, Why would anyone ever even think such actions would be needed, much less, have a law written respecting them.
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 07:33 PM
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7. Yes thank you

some of my thoughts exactly but dare we name it for what it surely looks like it is... a set up for what they want to look like an accident of nature... some infectious gateway into detainment and detention centers?

Shall we wait till the first one is filled?
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