Charles Gibson makes me puke.

[Cascadian]

Did anybody get to see his interview with John Kerry? Why on earth was he jabbing Kerry for throwing his medals at the White House lawn? Why was he just jumping on him about his anti-war stance during Vietnam? Geez! Charlie. Are you working for the RNC or what?


John

[Iceburg]

1. But ya gotta love him at the same time

Kerry and his backup band got more airtime (and quality airtime at that!)last week than in the previous 6 weeks ... thankyou Charlie, the idiot savant. Now back to yer cookin' shows chuck.

[Tellurian]

2. Charlie?

Gibson is a bonified *ss kisser.

He prefers gainful employment to Truth and integrity.

Gibson aired a special report on student plagiarism last night.

It was interesting the students ID'd with cheating as the popular trend prevalent in HS and Colleges if you want to get ahead. They used corporate CEO's as their example of making huge salaries and getting away with unethical behavior when caught committing fraud, embezzlement of stockholders funds and on and on. Surprisingly, the students remarked: All you have to do is hire a good lawyer, you get off, and never go to jail. Way to GO!

Their professor engineered software to scan their papers for plagiarism, (information copied directly word for word off the internet,) and submitted as their own work. The software red flags 8 words or more in a row identical to sentences currently on the internet. Emboldens those sentences in red, orange or green, and identifies the source, web site, pg number and all.

BUSTED!

Pretty interesting..

[jean]

8. Gibson should say bush/Enron created the climate for nationwide cheating,

fraud, plagiarism and general dishonesty (just as the right wing said Clinton was responsible for an epidemic of oral sex in school age kids). One of Gibson's adult interviewee's did cite Enron as influential in warping hs and college kids.

One of the college kids perfected ways to defeat the plagiarism software - he goes into an essay after lifting info from the internet and tweaks each sentence so he can't be caught. He also tailors each essay to fit the client - if it's a B student he'll write a B essay. This kid makes as much as $1000 per week and has also written college app essays. He wants to be a doctor. Gibson asked him what he would think of a doctor who cheats - the kid said he would admire that doc.

[Tellurian]

13. good info-

I wouldn't be a bit surprised the kid got a call from a Bush aide after seeing the segment.. Bush doesn't fire criminals, he hires them..

[Catshrink]

10. Turnitin.com is awesome!

We use it at our school. The English dept believes it has deterred kids from plagiarizing papers. I've used it in science and found several kids blatantly copying -- as much as 96%.

[Tellurian]

14. scary...

the next generation is playing right into the game.

they won't be able to think for themselves.

[Jivenwail]

3. Do you think ole Charlie would have the "temerity"

(aka BALLS) to talk to awol that way? Given that awol would not be allowed in that kind of environment (off the cuff, of course). Would anyone with any journalistic integrity ever treat awol that way, if given the opportunity to do so??? Don't worry, I do know the answer to my own question.

[trumad]

4. Charlie probably makes 2-4 mill in his current Gig...

Nuff Said!

[smada]

5. This isn't Charles Gibson's fault

Kerry has made his own mess. He's trying to play both sides of the fence, appealing to both those who oppose war ("I threw away my medals") and veterarns ("I only threw my ribbons", "I threw someone else's medals").

Whatever he did, he needs to get his story straight and be done with it. It's his own fault people are digging at this. They smell evasion and obfuscation. To reporters that's like the smell of blood to sharks. Like the saying goes, it's not the crime it's the coverup.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. What "mess"? There is a "mess" only in the eyes of the captive...

...mainstream press and the Freepers.

Meanwhile, let's talk about Junior's war record, shall we? If I recall correctly, he wasn't around to earn ANY medals, much less earn the right to throw them in any direction he pleased.

And what were you saying about a coverup?

[Bunny]

7. Oh please....

Honestly. :eyes:

>sigh<

[sendero]

9. Bush* engages..

.... in more evasion and obfusction in one day than Kerry has in the last year. Should he have to answer for that?

[smada]

12. It's about Kerry, not Bush

Bush is Bush, Kerry is Kerry. We all know Bush's faults, but point those out as much as you want and it still doesn't make Kerry a stronger candidate. If Kerry isn't straight with us he's going to get raked through the press for every little foible just like Gore did. And he's not being straight with us. I don't trust him. And I think it's just beginning.

Kerry's not been nominated yet. Let's rethink this. Howard Dean was unfairly executed by the establishment far too soon. He would make for a much stronger leader. He actually inspires people and will motivate people to go vote.

Face it, Kerry is not a strong candidate. He doesn't show leadership. I can't even think of anything he stands for. He says he's for the average guy, the middle class, but what has he ever known about middle class? He's looking down on us from his ivory tower. Let's not even mention how he's going to get hammered on environmental issues when Rove and the RNC decide to start going after him about five homes, SUVs, a boat, and a gulfstream jet.

[Tellurian]

17. Dean is supporting Kerry-

and so will every other presidential candidate that didn't make the cut--theres no need to rethink anything...

The moderate Republicans are going to support Kerry. They know him, they've worked shoulder to shoulder with him in Congress. Kerry is going to have the support of every American wanting to see this administration gone not just the democrats.

I'm sure Kerry is expecting a hellofa fight because Bush is going to pull every dirty trick in the book to maintain his tenure. As soon Kerry's nomination is official and he makes his VP announcement there will be a whole new political climate out there.

Bush and his minions are going to be summarily evicted from the WH..

get used to it-

[sendero]

18. Kerry...

... was certainly not my first choice as candidate, or even second. But while I don't agree with all of his positions (IMHO, Iraq is OVER, we should just leave) he's four times the man the current resident could ever hope to be.

I could care less about his material possessions and somehow I don't think the party of greed and excess is stupid enough to open that door. If they are, I say "bring it on".

[Bridget Burke]

19. "We" surely do know Bush's faults....

But they aren't as well known as they ought to be because the press has always given him a free pass. Any Democratic candidate will be attacked by the press no matter what he does. That's the way it works. You claim to be a Dean supporter--wasn't he crucified for a scream? It was played over & over by the media. And he went down.

About Kerry, you state "I can't even think of anything he stands for." The ignorance is yours. Correct it, please. And stop using Republican talking points against him.

[smada]

20. Oh please

Republican talking points. What Republican talking points? That is stupid. Kerry is a weak candidate. He is. I guess you would prefer if I put my head in the sand?

Take a good hard look at what the Village Voice has to say and then think about it.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0417/mondo1.php

[Bridget Burke]

22. Who do you prefer? Dean?

The one who folded like a house of cards because the media were not nice to him?

[smada]

23. He didn't fold like a house of cards

He folded when the media mecilessly hounded him into submission and made it clear he would be given no chance to win because he wasn't their choice.

[Bridget Burke]

11. Kerry's told his story.

If reporters really were interested in evasion & obfuscation they'd be on Junie's back. What about his AWOL? What about his "Community Service" in Houston? What about insider training at Harken?

Some reporters might even ask Junie about 9/11. Or the leadup to the Iraq war. Thousands died and nobody's asked him one tough question.

These reporters will listen to the most egregious lies and maintain a discreet silence--because of the corporations who employ them. And they'll try to make up stories about Kerry to fool the weak-minded.

[CatWoman]

15. Oh................my....................fucking......................god

:nuke: <------ my head exploding.

[IrateCitizen]

16. Gibson's merely representing establishment opinion on this...

With the "establishment", it is still considered a betrayal to have publicly spoken out against the Vietnam War. Therefore, they see Kerry's participation in VVAW as a betrayal, REGARDLESS of what decorations he may have received while in service or the utter wrongness of the war itself.

Gibson is simply supporting the establishment line on this, just as Russert did when he contemptuously implied Kerry's betrayal of America by speaking out against atrocities occurring in Vietnam.

[Tellurian]

21. Mark Fiore mirrors our opinion of Bush:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/fiore/2004/04/30/message/index1.html