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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:58 PM
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NYC: Bloomberg now wants to shut bars and clubs earlier???
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 08:12 PM by Cascadian
To NYC Duers. Is this true???

I noticed the discussion of this on a couple of websites but had yet to see it on the websites of New York's media outlets. What on earth is next? First he bans smoking from the bars and clubs and now he wants to shut them down early? What gives?

I am resigned to the fact that smoking in bars is fast becoming a thing of the past. In my state, the Tacoma-Pierce County area have banned smoking and a ban statewide is an inevitable fact. Though I do not smoke, I still find the bans ridiculous and unecessary. People are quitting anyway and my opinion is the market should decide this. Now the absurdity is growing as it would seem that the powers that be now want to close bars and nightclubs early. I know Atlanta has done it and now Buffalo is considering it as well. If this carries on, we'll be seeing such places close earlier nationwide. I suppose we'll have a bedtime law enforced before you know it. Get to bed and lights out by 11 PM or you'll be fined.

I tell you this world has been taken over by killjoys. I had a feeling that they would start closing bars earlier after the smoking ban. I wonder if something like this is going to happen in California? In fact, I am surpised that it hasn't yet. Give the politicans an inch, they will grab a foot.

If you have more info about this supposed last call change, that would be great.


John
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:11 PM
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1. Next. the nite-nite police will be out
to make sure you're tucked in, and not with someone they didn't approve ahead of ahead of time. Bar curfew in NYC? Sounds like a great way to get a Dem elected mayor.

As for smoking bans, as someone who is allergic, I appreciate having bans in restaurants, but I usually didn't mind too much if the bar had smokers. If I'm far enough away, I can tolerate it for a couple of hours.

BTW, a new study finds a correlation between lower rates of cardiac arrest for nonsmokers due to less second-hand exposure, but further studies are needed before conclusions are drawn. They stumbled onto this after reviewing emergency records for several cities that had enacted smoking bans in certain public places. I heard this on NPR, vs reading it, so I may not have all the details exactly right.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:12 PM
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2. link? i've been involved with the NYC cabaret
scene 20+ years and have not seen anything on this...

thanks
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:21 PM
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8. Here is the links I found.
Keep in mind that this maybe only talk but I am certain there is some kernel of truth to this.


http://www.suntimes.co.za/2003/12/07/news/news53.asp

http://www.gabby.com/today/today020704.txt


Both mentioned Bloomberg wanting to do this.


John



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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:15 PM
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3. Oh, that sweet, kind man! He's got my vote if he does it!
But then, you never had the bass beat from a nightclub bounce up thru your pillow until 4 am every night when you had to be up in time to make a ten am class on the other side of Manhattan.

You're only thinking about what suits you.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:19 PM
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5. Huh
Since his bar-smoking ban, I've had to contend with crowds of drunken smokers out on the sidewalks all over the neighborhood late every night. Maybe now they'll be out even earlier.

You're only thinking about what suits you.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:16 PM
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4. But there's a perfectly good reason
This will give New Yorkers more time to be at home reading their govermentment-issue Good Book, per John "The Devil Made Me Do It" Ashcroft.
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brainoverload Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:21 PM
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6. public smoking is not a simple issue
Being from Portland, OR I love the fact that smoking is banned in all public places except I hate the fact that bars are exempt. It is so refreshing to go to a bar in Boston or New York or California and experience a smoke free evening. I almost never go out in Portland for any length of time because if I do I spend the entire next day hacking.

Should people be free to bring their boom boxes into bars and blast whatever music they choose? Should people be free to bring their dogs and cats into bars and let them roam free? There's all sorts of behavioral restrictions that serve the common good.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:45 AM
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11. I've never understood why they couldn't just stick with . . .
segregated smoking and non-smoking sections . . . makes a whole lot more sense to me than an outright ban . . . I live in NY near the Jersey border, and all of the restaurants and bars in the area are in danger of going under because smokers just hop across the line to go out . . .
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:21 PM
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7. Testing the public's tolerance for martial law?
:tinfoilhat: or maybe not.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:22 PM
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9. I heard his polls are up
I'll never forget perusing the Freeper boards the night he was elected. They were absolutely ecstatic. What he's doing, though, is just a continuation of Rudy's regime remember Rudy's decency panel: Curtis Sliwa and Raoul Felder (his divorce lawyer)? These individuals were to choose which works of art were decent enough to be shown in museums.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:48 PM
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10. kick
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