How will you support the troops? Air conditioner off or on?

[Mika]

Off --> to reduce our consumption and dependence on foreign oil & gas

On -- to not let the terra-ists cow us and our "god given" way of life?

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[cheezus]

1. my electricity comes from dirty burning lignite coal

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. On because I have a 92-year-old mother...

...with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and who is prone to dehydration because she doesn't drink enough in summer. No AC would kill her.

[NMDemDist2]

3. I live in Phoenix

so my air is ON, but I pay $10 extra a month to support a solar energy "farm" to free up some of our mighty rivers here in the west. (Since most of our electricity is generated by dams)

[kerryin2004]

4. You dont live in Texas do you?? n/t

[Mika]

7. I live in Miami.

Its hard to find a stickier hotter hellhole than this smudge on a map.

[kerryin2004]

39. come to texas n/t

[No2W2004]

42. Houston, Texas

can't be worse that here

[kimchi]

5. It was 91 here on Monday, although we had a nice breeze.

We slathered on some sunscreen and played in the baby pool all day. My neighbor has had her damn AC on nonstop since then, and it keeps me awake. She also has a problem with my laundry hanging on the line, but she can go screw herself. I'm saving money AND energy.

We are the ONLY house I've seen in the entire neighborhood with the windows open, which means everyone is running their AC. I'm not turning it on until I'm absolutely miserable.

Hey morans, its not the heat--its the humidity!

[doni_georgia]

6. I live in Atlanta and have a son with severe allergies

I can't open the windows, because of the pollen and smog, and it is already in the 80s here. Sorry. This is one thing that has nothing to do with politics here. It's a matter of survival.

[Mika]

8. Politics and health go hand in hand, doni_g

Life is a matter of politics. Survival is a matter of politics.

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[RummyTheDummy]

9. F that

My dad was a miser growing up. He'd turn on the AC in mid June and not a day earlier. And even then it was programmed to like 80 degrees.

I'm on my own, I work for a living and while I will never drive an SUV, I will be comfortable. AC is one of the few luxuries I can give myself. Besides, if I left the AC off I'd be taking four showers a day. That's a waste of resources as well.

Shit in one hand, wish in the other.

[Skittles]

12. MY DAD WAS THE SAME WAY

was your dad a product of the depression? I HEAR YOU and I ditto everything you said. I don't ask for much but dammit I gotta have my AC, although I do turn if off at night and use the ceiling fan. I live right on top of Dallas.

[RummyTheDummy]

26. No, he was born in 1945

But very thrifty just the same.

[John_H]

10. W/u "Nucular" power A/C turned way up. I will be eating Granola though.

[FL4GORE]

11. Live in

Florida too. Sorry, stays on. Not yet though,
but the heat's a comin!

[wuushew]

13. This thread is being monitored by disruptors

http://www.conservativeunderground.com//forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4308

[Rex]

15. You must understand that CU was created because of a repressive

love of DU by near-critical thinkers. It is like the monkeys who monitor everything Bartcop says, and yet proclaim they hate his site and everything on it.

CUrs are comparable to 'log cabin republicans'.

[Mari333]

17. send them some enlistment forms

they will scatter like cockroaches.

[RummyTheDummy]

27. Great line Mari

You nailed it. They're cowards. EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM.

[Redleg]

35. I just found that CU discussed one of my posts.

Gern Blansten of CU called me an idiot. What a sweet disposition old Gern must have. Here's the link...

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3645

Yes, I did have to register at CU in order to defend myself.

[mike1963]

14. Without directly answering, it occurs to me that humans survived

without air-conditioning for many thousand years.

[wickerwoman]

32. It occurs to me that people only lived to 35

for many thousand years.

They also lived in "siesta" cultures where you worked from 7-10 in the morning, took a long nap in the hottest part of the day and then when back to work when it cooled off. Now we're expected to be in an office when it's 105 degrees out, actually accomplishing things.

Working and living in constant heat is exhausting and dehydrating. It effects worker productivity and leads to sharp spikes in consumption of fresh water, which is also a dwindling resource. Next thing you know we'll be invading Canada for the water. :-)

[Mari333]

16. Everytime I turned on the heat this winter

I thought of Michael in Iraq. for nothing but Oil revenues.
I kept it down to very little, and keep off all the lights all day and night except for what we need.
I refuse to be a lazy US citizen, and especially knowing full well how many died for all the chickenhawks out there who want our kids to die for their wastefulness.
Using less energy and petrochemicals where you can is patriotic.
Using more or not caring about it is being a traitor to the troops and to the country.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com

[amandabeech]

18. It is possible for all of us to reduce our energy use,

but it is very difficult to end it altogether. Here in Pennsylvania, I live in a cool duplex, and in the winter I turn down the heat and put on a warm sweater. If I'm just sitting in front of the computer and start to get chilled from inactivity, I throw a blank over my legs. In the summer, I am able to get by with just a window air conditioner in the bedroom and a couple of good fans.

I've lived in East Texas and the Washington, D.C. area, and I can't imagine living totally without air conditioning throughout the summer in either of those places. I don't know how people did it in the old days. Nonetheless, I found that using a fan with the ac on low kept me cool and used less electricity.

Those of you who own your own homes can plant trees and shrubs that will help keep your house cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. You can also improve the insulation and weatherstripping of your house and replace old, inefficient heating and cooling unites, and old appliances as your finances permit. Those of you who can make a larger capital investment and live in the right areas can look into geothermal heat pumps for heating and cooling.

And all of us can turn off unused lights and replace incandescent bulbs with energy-sipping compact fluorescents.

[RummyTheDummy]

28. I think everyone can conserve in their own way

For instance, I'd rather bundle up in the winter time and save natural gas and electrcity than swelter during the summer. I also recently moved to within 5 minutes of my workplace, eliminating a 45 minute, 35-mile commute on a daily basis. That has saved me a helluva lot of money.

I also buy only fuel efficient cars. I'm looking into getting a hybrid the next time I buy a car. I currently have a Honda Accord which gets a respectable 33 mpg HWY and about 28 in town. Not as good as a hybrid, but a lot better than an SUV or mini-van.

[BattyDem]

19. Sorry, but ...

I need AC. I have asthma and in the summer, it gets very humid here, which makes it difficult for me to breathe. :(

[RummyTheDummy]

30. But you're supporting terrorists!

I'm kidding of course. This thread is absurd.

[mouse7]

20. Pretty simple choice in most of PAC NW

Many building don't even have A/C. Mine doesn't. We usually only have about 10 days above 90 degrees a year, so it's no biggie. We've big on fans here for those days.

[Redleg]

21. On but with the temperature set high to conserve energy.

Hey- it's friggin' hot and muggy here in Kentucky during the summer. I have a baby daughter to think about.

[Mika]

22. Gee. How did babies survive in the past?

Its a damn wonder that mankind survived without a/c.

[Redleg]

23. I suppose you will give up driving your car and using electricity...

Don't be a damned jerk by judging me if I choose to use the A/C.

[Mika]

40. Just asking. Not judging

Don't be a damned jerk and jump to premature conclusions.

[Redleg]

49. How did babies survive in the past? Most didn't survive.

There's an answer for your question. And yes, you are being judgmental- as am I.

[Chovexani]

25. And we wonder why people hate liberals (n/t)

[Mika]

41. Please explain

Which people hate libruls? Repugs? Who gives a rats ass 'bout that? :shrug:

[Redleg]

45. There are people other than conservatives who resent

certain kinds of liberal actions and positions.

[RummyTheDummy]

29. Don't be so self righteous

It's silly to criticize people over something like this. Unless you live in the Yukon Territory, I'll bet dollars to donuts your AC is on by July.

[Mika]

43. Who is being self righteous?

Aren't you being a little self righteous by calling me that w/o understanding my question? Aren't you judging me?

I wasn't "criticizing" anybody. Just asking.

[Redleg]

44. Your response to my post was critical.

Unless there is some other way to interpret it.

[sadiesworld]

47. BS.

You were being a smartass. I also live in KY and my AC will be on this summer. I bet that if the rest of the country did what the folks here on DU do to conserve, our consumption would drop like a stone. We make the choices we can live with.

[Mika]

53. Good for you and the "god given" way of life you have

"You were being a smartass."

Huh?

I live in Miami. No A/C. But, that's my choice.

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"We make the choices we can live with."


How about the choices our soldiers are dying for?

[sadiesworld]

55. "Good for you and the 'God-given' way of life you have"

Why would I think that you're being a smart-ass? :shrug:

As for my life and the choices I make in order to conserve, you know NOTHING about it. Nor do you know about the lives of all these other posters.

Apparently, you have decided that turning on the AC equals not caring about the soldiers. :eyes:

Sorry, I don't buy it.

[Kazak]

24. We'll turn it on when it gets REAL hot...

'Guess we'll be cowed by the sun. But, we do live in Oklahoma...you know...where the wind comes sweeping down the plains. We gather a portion of our electricity from wind energy...for a fee.

[Toucano]

31. It doesn't have to be "ON or OFF"

I wish everyone would stop trying to make each issue the choice between opposites. That's the world of Dubya.

Instead, people could be encouraged to set their thermostats 2 degrees higher than they normally do.

You like it at 74? Try it at 76 for a couple of weeks. Still feel okay? Try 78. When it's 95 outside, 80 feels great!

Make it an act of conservation, not deprivation. Small sacrifices can inspire far more people and save more energy in the long run.

[Redleg]

34. Excellent post, dralston.

Much more reasonable than the "all or nothing" approach.

[DianeG5385]

33. Off. If they are sweating we can sweat

This is such a ludicrous and unjust war, but our young men have been called to duty. My cousin's son is a marine and while he has not yet been called to Iraq, a friend from his unit was recently killed in Iraq. His mom e-mailed us all and asked us to pray for him. We can disagree and hate this war, but we must honor thr prayer and honor the young men who are doing their duty!!! Unlike the unjust PREZ!
No air conditioning so we can get a flavor of what they will be going through.

[Redleg]

38. I've already had a taste of hot and dusty while in uniform.

I think I will pass on this one.

[ComerPerro]

36. Fuck it, I don't see the rich sacraficing anything

[Redleg]

37. Sure they are- they are sacrificing working-class men and women

so they can enjoy the spoils of empire.

[ellie]

46. I would love to live off the grid,

and I will, but I can't at the moment. But I am making plans to and will do so before peak oil becomes a reality.

[xxqqqzme]

48. no a/c here

only ceiling fans but I live @ the beach in socal.

[napi21]

50. When I hear they turned of the A/C at the WH, Houes, Senate.

House in Crawford, and all the Reps and Sens. turn theirs off, FORGET IT!

I live in Atlanta, and it gets HOT!

I don't ming doing my share, but I'm not doin' it alone!

Same with trying to save on gas. If there's really a problem with having enough gas, then ration it for EVERYBODY! I don't have an SUV, but I do have a big car. It's a 1999 and it's paid for! I drive about 7,500 miles a year, and I don't think Im contributing a whole lot to the gas problem.

Get everybody to turn their A.C off, ration the gas, turn the lights off at 9:00PM., then I'll co-operate. Just me? NO!

[Karenina]

51. Erraaaa...

How about organizing A/C for the troops? Would certainly ease a TINY BIT of their pain being "compelled" to do what dey be DOING.

Zum Beispiel:
Outrageous dehumanizing violence.
Link? Oh, never mind.

Prolly need to send power generators mit...

[SW FL Dem]

52. On for the first time today

I am in Florida, it's been over 80 for the past month. Today the pollen and mold counts are at record highs. It's set at 78.

[alcuno]

54. ON! I live 2 damn miles from work.

And I adore air-conditioning. Let's make a rule that everyone needs to live within 30 miles of their workplace. People are actually commuting from Kenosha to Chicago!