Bring Back the Compulsory Draft & Watch America's Thirst for War Die.

[David Zephyr]

And bring it back for only white, heterosexual males above 40 years in age who have already had ample use of their limbs, eyes and holy procreation gear.

Let the youngsters fill their void in civilian life, and let them have the older guys' cushy jobs, positions, wives and their inheritances.

No excuses, medical or family accepted.

Who cares if their backs ache when they climb out off their bunks in the morning, or if their flabby white asses get tired and just won't move as fast as the boys do?

And if they die, well...it was for freedom, right?

We'll even give 'em some shiny medals and ribbons. Make 'em proud.

Yeah, bring back the draft for all Caucasian, straight men over forty in age.

And then watch just how many wars that U.S. gets itself into.

Then watch how loud and proud these white geezers (I am one, by the way) talk about making war, about invading other nations.

[BostonTeaParty04]

1. I am thinking of some those younger members of congress.....

hmmmmm.....

No excuses AT ALL. But bring it back for males 35 and older.

[tabasco]

2. I am in favor of universal male service like in Europe.

But not to be instituted during war. The voluntary military is in effect a mercenary military. Nobody cares about the soldiers. Universal service with no deferments (strict but reasonable) deters war, reduces racism, and builds patriotism.

[welshTerrier2]

4. why not women ??

it never ceases to amaze me that men are forced to register with selective service but not women ...

this seems to be an undue burden being put on males ...

it's time to do away with this discriminatory practice ...

[Warpy]

6. Women have babies

And that's enough threat to life and limb

Also, the greatest danger to women in the military is rape by their fellow male soldiers. Is that what you want for the young women of this country? Your sisters? Your daughters?

Don't give me this crap about equality, either. You guys can suck us into the military and use us to masturbate into at will when you guys start getting pregnant.

Drafting women is a stupid idea. Women will continue to volunteer, as we have always done, in every war, in whatever capacity we can serve in. Drafting women during their prime childbearing years is stupid for the women, for the military, for the country, and for the human race.

[David Zephyr]

7. I Agree. Drafting Women Is Stupid.

Zephyr's Law: Only old, white heterosexual men should be drafted.

[welshTerrier2]

8. "Don't give me this crap about equality"

if one advocates equal rights for men and women, and I do, it would seem necessary to also advocate for equal responsibility ...

do you agree with this or not ... and if not, why not?

i, too, am outraged by the number of rapes reported, and not reported, in the military ...

as for your other arguments, i think they are nonsense ... first of all, many women do not have babies ... and even if they do, i see no reason that this should prevent them for registering with selective service at 18 years of age ... if you want to argue that pregnant women should not drafted, no problem ...

and the fact that some women volunteer does not respond to the point that some men volunteer ... it would seem to me you would have to argue that men shouldn't have to register either if "volunteering" is the standard ...

[David Zephyr]

9. It's Rich White Heterosexual Old Men That Have Started Every War

and women, queers, young men and people of color have no reason to fight for them.

[welshTerrier2]

11. here's my position on this

first of all, to the extent that we have a certain "macho sickness" that occurs among some white, heterosexual males over the age of 40, i'm in total agreement with your views ... maybe if the chickenhawks running the show right now had to lead the troops into battle, there wouldn't be a battle ...

now, putting aside the "wouldn't that be nice" line of reasoning, let's talk about a realistic plan to have this country in a position where it could defend itself if necessary ... it seems to me however truthful your assessment is, i think younger citizens are better able to serve ... still, conscription is not a good option for anyone ...

the point i was raising was that, if you agree with making 18 year olds register for selective service, i can see no legitimate basis for not treating the sexes equally ... i think it's discriminatory to do otherwise ...

btw, i'm totally opposed to a draft ...

[wickerwoman]

10. You should rethink this position.

I haven't seen the phrase "prime childbearing years" for a while, but I always associate it with the religious right. As Welsh Terrier points out many women don't have children and it is certainly not their primary function in society.

The world is already overpopulated. The human race isn't going to go extinct because a few thousand American women die in combat. Women fought in the Isreali army and the Soviet army. Last time I checked, there were still Isrealis and Russians.

If we ever hope to gain real equality and respect then we have to accept the shit duties as well as the priviledges. I don't favor the draft for men or women- I consider it glorified serfdom and unworthy of a democracy- but if we draft men, we should sure as hell draft women too.

[lastknowngood]

3. It took 15 years and 58000 American lives and violent protests

where people were beaten and killed before the sheeple woke up to Vietnam so don't expect the freepers to change right away. Still a large portion of this country was and is still against the pull out of Vietnam. 35% of this population is dumber than dirt and 15% are only slightly brighter so we have our work cut out for us even if the draft becomes a big issue. Just watch Limpballs and the Reich wing opinion makers start saying that you owe it to your country to serve, even though he did not. Betcha

[RC]

5. And while you are at it....

Bring the war over here so we don't have to travil so far. That alone will change the war monger's mind when their front yard looks like the news from Iraq.

[IronLionZion]

12. Send Bush there

A better Republican president, Dwight Eisenhower, had the courage to go to Korea during the war so why can't Bush go there? (not secretly at 3 AM with a plastic turkey either)

[maggrwaggr]

13. Hey wait. I'm a 40+ year old white guy. YOU go for me, okay.

I never wanted this fucking war, I did everything I could think of to stop it, I ain't going.

I think we should start by drafting every male that has an American flag on his pickup, or a "god bless America" sticker anywhere, or anybody who was ever for the fucking war in the first place.

Let them go. Leave me out of it.

[blm]

14. I agree, DZ. Put everyone's ass on the line and watch them toe it.

Or rather, tiptoe it.

Good post salute.

[x-g.o.p.er]

15. And watch our military erode and decay like it did during Vietnam....

This is a bad idea.

And don't call me a lurker or a chickenhawk...I am on active duty. I DON'T want someone fighting next to me if they were forced to be there due to compulsory conscription.

This is uber-fucked up if it comes to pass.

I'm talking about a draft in general, obviously, not your fantasyland rules about the white males over 40.

[tabasco]

17. The military erode during Vietnam?

IMO, our military was fine during Vietnam. Don't rely on Oliver Stone for your Vietnam history. The 82nd ABN, 173rd ABN, 101st ABN, Ranger BNs, SF, etc. fought their asses off in Nam. These were VOLUNTEER units even during the draft. If we had universal service (like Europe) there would still be volunteer high-speed units for high-speed guys like you.
Admittedly there were morale problems in units that had draftees (although they still fought their asses off too). Gee, imagine the military reflecting the society that it fights for. Outrageous! It should be a LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE when you force men to fight in an ill-conceived war. Give Americans a RIGHTEOUS war and we all fight our asses off. The military was great in WWII and was draft military. It wasn't the military that eroded during Vietnam, it was support for the war.

I was active duty till not too long ago myself, and for many years. I'm an ABN RGR CIB kind of guy. Glad to meet you and Hoo-ahhh.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

16. OK SO

draft everyone white, male, 35 and older and who SUPPORTED and continues to support this immoral, unjust invasion.

That'll kill the war fever quick fast. I can almost guarantee you a lack of draftees. They'll all suddenly claim they don't support the war. Then it's over. Either way. Brilliant idea, how do we get it done?

Oh wait, I'm coming back from La-La Land now. I WISH we could do that, I really do. It would effectively end blood lust in this country.