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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:07 AM
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Eulogy on the demise of MediaWhoresOnline
I still keep a handy link to http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/ in the hopes that the mysterious "horse", who has been "out to pasture" for several months, will come back home. So we can, at least, thank our friend and say goodbye. But, alas, even the "out to pasture" sign has been removed. The barn has been torn down. And all you see is a new notice:

Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

So MWO, whoever you are, I for one want to say thanks for having the courage to speak the truth when everyone else was too shocked or stupid or afraid to open their mouth. Someday I hope we'll get to know your name.

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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:09 AM
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1. Got too close to the truth
Just like Howard Beale in the movie "Network"
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:13 AM
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2. Thanks, Horse! You helped "Tip" the Chimperor.
Sniff. I'll still miss ya!



"What's this thing called agin'?"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:15 AM
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:26 AM
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7. Got a Jewish problem?
It's kind of obvious.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:40 AM
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:51 AM
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12. And what's your excuse
for some of the really foul comments you like to make?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:54 AM
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13. I need an excuse?
that never even occurred to me. I guess Im not cultured enough to justify oppression, slaughter or genocide and be polite about it.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:06 AM
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14. "Oppression, slaughter or genocide "
Wow! Did the lady from MWO do all that?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:14 AM
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17. Of course not, neither did she make my foul comments
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 09:18 AM by tinanator
which is what you were referencing, correct? If you want further indictments of her misbehavior, I can go into great detail. She is a coward and a liar. geez why bother, I guess someone is following me around with an eraser. She's a whore who cant point a finger at the real problem, because she is part of it.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:30 AM
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21. If you have some specifics...
that you can separate from her being both female and Jewish, I'd be interested. Since all women and all Jews are not responsible for what's bothering you, why don't you get to the real point, which might just be interesting. What did she say or do or not say or not do about the media?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:34 AM
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22. As you continue to misrepresent me as misogynist and racist
I dont feel I owe you much there. You certainly could take her place though.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:42 AM
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25. I'm not misrepresenting you.
I'm just being a mirror for what you put forth.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:38 AM
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24. You called her a coward and a liar..
And for that, I think you at least need to go into some detail.

If not, you are perceived as the liar and coward.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:47 AM
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26. lol
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 10:00 AM by tinanator
she is a coward for hiding her identity, not that many or most online posters dont do the same, and perhaps her position in the whore media makes her more than vulnerable, but to personally attack people anonymously is less than courageous. She did have the indecency and explicit dishonesty to infer (when some talking shithead cable noise program stated MWO might be the source of violence) that I was the only one likely to do that. Fuck her. furthermore she NEVER pointed out the ownership issues that brought us the whore media, instead, as I said before, she simply tried to shame helpless sex workers who didnt support her brand of pro-Israel politician. deal with it.
I dont know if its cowardice or info-fascism that caused the message board to be shut down, but one by one the interactive features of the website were dismantled as hypocrisies were being discussed openly. She was the original mouthpiece for the Begala Nader blaming campaign, a hate based operation that has done incalculable damage to progressive politics, and a whitewash of Democratic complicity in the ascension of Bush the 43rd. They both earned their paychecks and Satanic kneepads there.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:01 AM
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27. What are you talking about?
Jeez, getting a clear answer from you is like pulling teeth. So far we've got media ownership, sex workers, violence, pro-Israel politicians and you. Clearly Florida is more of a swamp than I thought.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:09 AM
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28. you seem to have perception issues
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 10:10 AM by tinanator
what the fuck does florida have to do with anything? Are you trying to cloud something? This mysterious whore has various attributes which I listed for those curious or confused about her background. That doesnt make me misogynist (feminist thank you) or anti-semitic/anti-jewish, or worst of all anti-floridian. It does however, if correct, help delineate the mysterious whore who exerted her numerous biases in the joke of all jokes, a website about media bias.
Im sure you are as aware as anyone how her prejudices (Nader hate campaign aside) were constantly being exposed by participants. She could no longer allow a message board to interfere with her whoring, and that speaks volumes.
And no, I wasnt talking to you.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:18 PM
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34. Typical Dumb Ass Nader supporters
I remember when the Great MWO was one of the first sites to call Nader and his supporters exactly what they are...Fucking Dickwads! Oh and ever since they did, the Dickwad Nader supporters bitched and moaned about MWO.... You can immediately spot a Nader supporter the minute they spout crap about how awful MWO is and was..... Fucking whiny ass Nader supporters...Fuck em!
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:22 AM
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41. and screw the Palestinians too?
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 01:25 AM by tinanator
youre sorely lacking, in spades.
well, maybe not in bias.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:59 AM
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46. The thing about dumb ass Nader supporters
is when you go after them they offer up inane responses.... Nader supporters are all a bunch of idiots...
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:47 AM
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47. I want to take the opportunity to thank you
for confirming what I said and proving my point. There may be no way for you to resist a propaganda campaign, or maybe you are simply a sworn participant. What you arent is democratically inclined. Or politically astute. And you will blame others for your future failures!
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:47 AM
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48. I want to take the opportunity to thank you
for confirming what I said and proving my point. There may be no way for you to resist a propaganda campaign, or maybe you are simply a sworn participant. What you arent is democratically inclined. Or politically astute. And you will blame others for your future failures!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:30 AM
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9. Wow! Jewish and female - the double horror! Oh, the humanity!
How ever were you able to survive, you poor thing? bad, bad jewish female!

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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:33 AM
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10. Don't forget, "Floridian"
Three strikes and ...
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:08 AM
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15. True. Just being a Floridian...
is highly suspect. ;-)
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:20 AM
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19. God forbid someone uses adjectives in a sentence
what kind of guilt issues cause them to be perceived as negatives?
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:37 AM
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23. I'm obviously not the only one who caught the negative tone...
and it was nothing to do with guilt, only your obvious anger about something.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:34 PM
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32. Nope, Not the Only One
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:42 AM
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49. Apparently not
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 09:45 AM by Cassandra
or not yet.

edit: Oh, spelling!
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:52 AM
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50. perish forbid
is that a rock in your pocket?
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:17 AM
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4. netscape delivers message
unable to locate the server www.mwo1.com
please check the name and try again.

:shrug:
dp
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:22 AM
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5. someone her at du
knows the "horse" personally. if i remember the horse could no longer devote as much time to putting together the site to maintain it`s standards. if i remember correctly the "horse" is a lady....
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:23 AM
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6. :sniff:
Snellius, I also keep my MWO link active and handy, and I click on it every few days just to see if the horse is racing again.

:-( It's the end of an era. Rest in peace, Horse, and thank you for your service, and snark. You will be missed by truth-seeking liberals everywhere. :-(
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:27 AM
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8. I shall use the word "whorses" about the media from now on as a homage
The link came up yesterday....
They certainly started the truth seeking on the internet - they were the most influential such effort - spearheading the blogs.
Long live the Horse - may his pasture be sunny!
(I am sure it's very busy and important myself)
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:11 AM
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16. I wonder if a DU consortium could BUY the Horse?
Every day here there's AT LEAST as much intelligent commentary and fact-based exposing of Media whoredom as there ever was on Horse.

I wonder if Horse's creator would consider selling the domain name and the template, rather than just let it go away--the horse has a large and loyal following and it would be a shame to let it go to waste.

Someone who can devote the time can act as editor, and content could be submitted and taken from posts. How easy would that be?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:15 AM
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18. It will be back
did you miss the post from the other day?
Not that Im happy about it.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #18
29. Great news!!! How do you know for sure?
If you're right, you just made my day.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:24 AM
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20. MWO was my first lefty website.
They were there when the blogosphere was in its infancy, and they were the first ones to let me know that there were others like me out there, that I wasn't alone. And they did it with insight, great humor, and pretty good insider knowledge. I'll never forget them.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:59 AM
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43. Mine too. A toast to a great website.
:toast:
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:14 PM
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30. Anyone have a name?
nt
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:44 PM
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33. Bartcop Knows the Name(s)
One Xmas season, when the freeper college kids with more time on their hands were spamming the MWO message board and MWO staff were on vacation, I e-mailed Bartcop and he said to go ahead and e-mail MWO anyway, that (NAME - I forgot it) was there anyway although supposedly on vacation.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:50 AM
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40. In the early, early days there was a name and a picture
of a very pretty young woman on the short-lived Who Are We page. I don't remember her name. There were also blurred photos and pseudonyms of two male colleagues who withheld their names for professional reasons. Must have been moles, maybe even at the Post, considering a couple of "scoops" they ran about Post office gossip.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:28 AM
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42. There's an old Salon article about Bartcop and MWO, I believe.
Feel free to google... it was in the early, heady days of MWO, a most influential political website regardless of what Nader fans think. The press was obsessed with "outing" the Horse, and went so far as to semi-accuse Bartcop, and I believe they even interviewed him about it. He's got a great old rant about those days in his archives.

Sigh... I hope the Horse is only out to a peaceful pasture, only to emerge when we really, really, really start missing the old nag. :-)

Thanks for this thread, Snellius. It's fitting, and I'm honored to pay the Horse a little homage.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:31 PM
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31. horse....
WE NEED YOU!

Come home!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:19 PM
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35. "Someone" got to them awhile back...
I noticed that The Horse started taking curiously timed vacations around the 2002 elections and during other later crucial events. Hmmm...
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themann1086 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:19 PM
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36. noooo
they had such a great refute for the "liberal media" on their site...
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 PM
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37. MWO had a big write up on my call to Katherine Harris.. I miss em !
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 PM by vetwife
No body got to them. Its just nobody support anything..Some can't some won't. I know I got a CD out there a narration CD called Take it Back and its cheap and nobody is buying. Guy is having to work like the devil and not making a dime. We have to pay a little for freedom. I didn't even want to recoup my money..Just get Bush's lies out there. Nobody is buying it. Same thing I imagine happened to Horse...Costs a lot of money to run a site ! But for anyone who is interested here again


http://cafeshops.com/focusgroupnow.9200633

for Take it Back
Every dime is going to help sites like this and Guy James and Randi and thats it. But I haven't even sold enough to get a check !
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:14 PM
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39. Your situation/explanation still does not address MWO's...
curiously timed vacations. Go back and check when they were "away" and you will see a pattern.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:06 AM
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44. Dumbya Chronicles probably knows
I just don't believe they were gotten to. Vacation could mean
no money to run. They were running Oct.2003 and even in January 04.
Lot of people checking out MWO. I know they went ofline a lot..but who knows about financial reasons !
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 PM
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38. I Didn't Always Agree With NWO, But...
I miss the site and hope that it returns someday.
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:33 AM
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45. I don't think we've seen the last of the Horse.
He/she/it said they'll be back, and I have reason to doubt it. I think they are just busy. The quality and frequency had really tailed off in the last year and a half; it was very disappointing. No "media whore of the week" update. I have the feeling MWO will be back before the election.
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