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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:47 AM
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What do you think the John Kerry like/dislike ratio is at DU?
Please don't go on any tirades about why we should or shouldn't like Kerry, please just say what percentage of people here like or don't like our candidate.

80% like? 60% like? 20% like? I can't figure it out. Can you help me?
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:48 AM
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1. clarify: genuinely like, versus ABB/will fully support
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:49 AM
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3. ABB
anyone else can kiss my...
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:49 AM
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2. 85% like 10% Naderites & Bush lovers (same thing) 5% clueless (nt)
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:49 AM
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4. It seems like there have been polls, but my guess
is that 35% support him, 50% tolerate him and 15% don't like him.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:50 AM
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5. I dunno, but I can say this...

...we better get behind Kerry and support him, even if he doesn't come down like we want him to on every issue. He's got an election to win. We can argue his policies once he's in office and is able to better reveal some of his ideas on more controversial issues (Israel/Pals, transgender issues, black reperations, etc.)

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:52 AM
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6. I Only Know What I Like And....I Like Him!
I really do! I think a lot of people are just really immature/unrealistic about a candidate having to match their viewpoints 100%. At this point anyone with a heart and a brain looks awesome after suffering through Bushco. I have my differences with Kerry but I DON'T CARE. And his testimony from 1971 brought tears to my eyes -- can you imagine Bush ever doing anything like THAT?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:14 AM
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21. The Kerry of 1971 is NOT the Kerry that is running in 2004
I don't hear candidate Kerry speaking about Iraq as he once did about Vietnam. Replace "communism" with "terrorism" and the Kerry of 1971 sounds more like Dennis Kucinich than the Kerry of 2004:

We rationalized destroying villages in order to save them.

<snip>

Each day to facilitate the process by which the United States washes her hands of Vietnam someone has to give up his life so that the United States doesnt have to admit something that the entire world already knows, so that we can't say they we have made a mistake. Someone has to die so that President Nixon won't be, and these are his words, "the first President to lose a war."

We are asking Americans to think about that because how do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? But we are trying to do that, and we are doing it with thousands of rationalizations, and if you read carefully the President's last speech to the people of this country, you can see that he says and says clearly:

But the issue, gentlemen, the issue is communism, and the question is whether or not we will leave that country to the Communists or whether or not we will try to give it hope to be a free people.

But the point is they are not a free people now under us. They are not a free people, and we cannot fight communism all over the world, and I think we should have learned that lesson by now....

http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:54 AM
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7. I don't care as long as everyone votes for him...
lurking freepers, too!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:59 AM
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9. Yep, freepers trying to divide us.....


it aint gonna work
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:59 AM
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8. From what I can tell, the dislike is rising slowly.
This is partially from personal experience but also what I've seen other people posting here as well. Back when Kerry first clinched the nomination, I was disappointed but was willing to hold my nose and vote for the guy just to get B*sh out. After about a week, it went from holding my nose to wearing a HazMat suit to stand him. Now, I don't think I can vote for him, simply because every day he's out there defining his positions is another day he spends distancing himself from me even more. Pro-war. Anti-gay-marriage. Pro-Israeli-occupation. It just keeps going on and on...if it keeps up at this rate, by November he'll be more right-wing than B*sh. >_<

If I had to pick numbers, I'd probably say (just off the top of my head) that the active dislike is probably somewhere between 25-30%. By active dislike I mean anywhere from hold-my-nose-and-vote and won't-vote-for-him-ever.

I want to vote Dem this cycle, I really do, but they're not making it very easy for me.

Our system is soooooo broken...
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:00 AM
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10. WTF? then vote for Bush...

it's posts like this that piss me off.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:06 AM
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15. and it's two virtually identical candidates that pisses ME off *nt*
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:07 AM
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17. Ok, then vote for Bush..


...your statement is ridiculous.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:09 AM
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18.  My statement is no less ridiculous than yours.
If I vote for Kerry, I'll be voting for the B*sh with better hair.

I'd like a REAL alternative, thanks.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:11 AM
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20. I prefer a lot of things....


....but I accept the reality for what it is.

No hard feelings. I feel though, that if we don't get behind Kerry, we'll have to suffer through another 4 years of Bush. That's the reality.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:17 AM
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23. And if we do get behind Kerry....
....we'll get a draft, continued meaningless war/murder, Israeli annexation of Palestinian land and the revocation of the non-revocable right of return, continued giveaways to corporations for the sake of not being the dreaded 'anti-business,' etc.

That's just what I can remember at the moment; if I wasn't A) tired and B) lazy I'd go googling and find other positions of his that I find absolutely repulsive.

I think you're misunderstanding that whole post of mine, anyway...I'm not trying to disrupt, or split the party (like posting on a bbs would do that...), or anything like that. As I said, I really want to be able to vote Dem...I just can't do it anymore. This country is shaping up to be another Humphrey vs. Nixon...different war, same response from the Dems.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:00 AM
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11. Here is a poll. Hope this helps
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:02 AM
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13. Shit, I did that wrong
I should have added "I like him and will vote for him" and "I do not like him, but will vote for him"
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:06 AM
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16. ok, kinda fixed
sorry to those who already voted
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:00 AM
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12. Just a guess, but: no better than 30-70
He gets my vote because Bush is his opponent, not because I like him (I don't). I haven't been at DU long enough to know for sure what the ratio would be here, but any of my liberal friends would tell you the same thing. I live and work in D.C, which as you all know is overwhelmingly Democrat, and I don't know anyone who likes the guy. Not one single person. Yet all of us will vote for him because we want a president that walks upright.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:04 AM
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14. in my opinion
anybody who doesn't vote for Kerry will be allowing Chimpy to become the first dictator of the United States. call me paranoid but I sincerely believe that if Chimp is reselected, this will be the end of our democracy.
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MonicaR Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:09 AM
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19. Your opinion is shared
By many thoughtful people in this country. I've been telling a lot of people who aren't registered to vote but are pissed off about the direction of this country:

You'd better register, then run to the polls on November 2. If you don't it will be the LAST free election you'll get to participate in.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:14 AM
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22. my uneasiness sits with
whether he is willing or in the know or understand, how much bush and people have taken republican and religion to controlling, with the corporations behind it. how much the little man has fallen behind

i dont know how far he is willing to go, to lose his washington inside person he was. that is not the same role needed in whitehouse

what i do see, is he has since dean, been shifting here and there. but not confident in him yet.

i will just have to sit and listen to him, and not judge so early. there is plenty of time, adn he is the only other one to vote for. there is not a single reason, i would vote ever for bush. further i want him out. period. at least kerry has a brain

i like what someone said, kerry dumbing down, not disrespectful though. clinton did it. yet continued to be insightful and knowledgable.

will be interesting getting to know kerry
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:18 AM
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24. I believe the "dislikes" are vocal minority here at DU.
My sense is that most DUers sincerely want to see Bush beaten and believe that Kerry, as the Democratic nominee, will do it.

There are those who have remarked that Kerry is no different from Bush. Well- we have heard that crap before from you-know-who and most of us are not going to buy it.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:22 AM
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25. You are right.
The vocal minority are mostly Nader supporters and not Democrats.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 10:23 AM
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26. I believe your poll has it pegged.
Just under 80% like him and 7% don't like him but will vote for him. The rest just post hate topics endlessly. Oh yeah, they will continually repeat ideas, the same ideas and threads over and over and over.
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