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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:32 AM
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popular sci-fi mirrors possible futures...
... a friend just told me...

Star Wars is our future society if the conservatives win.
Star Trek is our future society if the liberals win.

Thoughts?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:33 AM
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1. Bladerunner is our future if the neo-cons win
Not a real pretty world.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:34 AM
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2. very good!
or, Bush/Vader 2004!

or, Bush/Sauron
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:35 AM
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3. I think the future is more like Terminator I
The armed predators are the first generation of robot fighters who will be used to terrorize the Earth in coming generations.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:52 AM
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7. yes. sadly, yes. we are going to have to evolve fast to avoid Terminator.
i work at one of the top three Tech schools in the world.

Did you know robots can run now?

and then there was this from the Washington Post:

Neuroscientist Make Progress With Brain-Machine Interfaces

Scientists in North Carolina have built a brain implant that lets monkeys control a robotic arm with their thoughts, marking the first time that mental intentions have been harnessed to move a mechanical object. The technology could someday allow people with paralyzing spinal cord injuries to operate machines or tools with their thoughts as naturally as others today do with their hands. It might even allow some paralyzed people to move their own arms or legs again, by transmitting the brain's directions not to a machine but directly to the muscles in those latent limbs. The brain implants could also allow scientists or soldiers to control, hands-free, small robots that could perform tasks in inhospitable environments or in war zones. In the new experiments, monkeys with wires running from their brains to a robotic arm were able to use their thoughts to make the arm perform tasks. But before long, the scientists said, they will upgrade the implants so the monkeys can transmit their mental commands to machines wirelessly.

The experiment by some may be viewed as cruel but merit and implications of the task are huge.

The device relies on tiny electrodes, each one resembling a wire thinner than a human hair. After removing patches of skull from two monkeys to expose the outer surface of their brains, Nicolelis and his colleagues stuck 96 of those tiny wires about a millimeter deep in one monkey's brain and 320 of them in the other animal's brain. The surgeries were painstaking, taking about 10 hours, and ended with the pouring of a substance like dental cement over the area to substitute for the missing bits of skull. The monkeys were unaffected by the surgery, Nicolelis said. But now they had tufts of wires protruding from their heads, which could be hooked up to other wires that ran through a computer and on to a large mechanical arm.
After this, the monkeys learned how to move the robotic arm with a joystick. While they were using the joystick a computer was monitoring their thought patterns. Eventually the computer learned to read the thoughts of the monkeys.

At first, Nicolelis said, the monkey kept moving the joystick, not realizing that her own brain was now solely in charge of the arm's movements. Then, he said, an amazing thing happened. "We're looking, and she stops moving her arm," he said, "but the cursor keeps playing the game and the robot arm is moving around." The animal was controlling the robot with its thoughts. "We couldn't speak. It was dead silence," Nicolelis said. "No one wanted to verbalize what was happening. And she continued to do that for almost an hour." At first, the animals' performance declined compared to the sessions on the joystick. But after just a day or so, the control was so smooth it seemed the animals had accepted the mechanical arm as their own.
the founding scientist John P. Donoghue and Miguel A.L. Nicolelis have petitioned the Food and Drug Administration in hopes of starting experiments on humans next year. At that time, they hope to have a device that could be implanted into the brain that will allow the brain signals to be transmitted, bypassing the need for external wires. I look forward to the day that a hat or helmet can be the signal catcher. Think of the things we would be able to do effortlessly. Operate your computer, mental telepathy (communicate with others without talking), drive a car, control objects in the house, and on and on. This will be really beneficial to those handicapped in ways that limit their physical mobility, but eventually this technology will become common place. SOurce: Washington Post
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roscoeroscoe Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:38 AM
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4. welcome to the future~
it's here. for those concerned about the dark distopian future, please read kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy. there is a way out of this mess.
thanks!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:39 AM
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5. If the NeoCons win, I'm thinking more like "Soylent Green".
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:46 AM
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6. What about Battlestar Galactica?
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:56 AM
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8. A big pile of Ashes is what our future holds is the neo-cons win.
I hate to put things in such futuristic terms. We can't even teach All of our children read.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:12 AM
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9. It's DUNE, and guess who's
playing the role of the House Harkonnen?

"The spice must flow!"
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:30 AM
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10. Handmaid's Tale if the Talibornagain win
But with your friend's assessment...

Which Star Wars trilogy and which Star Trek series?
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:36 AM
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11. Metropolis
We will be working down below while they live in splendor above.

After that we may eventually evolve into Morlocks.
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:41 AM
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12. Soylent Green ---> Blade Runner ---> Mad Max
In that order, if the Neo Cons get their way!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:47 AM
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13. logan's run
check it out...
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:47 AM
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14. Starship Troopers is our world NOW
I just re-rented this film yesterday and I could not believe how (if you substitute bugs for Iraqis) Verhoeven predicted just about everything involved with this war on terra, articularly the fawning, enabling media in direct service of a fascist leadership. And I believe that movie came out in 1998.
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