O'Franken: David Kay basically says we didn't find WMD's but...

[devilgrrl]

... it's still Clinton's fault. :eyes:

Is anyone listening to this?

[Catfight]

1. thanks! eom

[ewagner]

2. Listening

I think Kay is trying to keep damaging information ABOUT HIMSELF from being leaked if he damages the WH.

[minkyboodle]

3. yeah

Al is holding his feet to the fire though. Just when I was thinking Franken was going soft (with the earlier guest or caller) he is taking it to them now. Go Al!!!!!! Hooray for AIr America.
Scott

[peacetalksforall]

6. A previous guest was an old personal friend of his who supports Pubs

[minkyboodle]

26. I figured it was something like that

I only caught the tail end of it.

[efhmc]

4. So when exactly did Clinton find the time to go locate all those weapons

and get rid of them?

[devilgrrl]

5. ????????

What?

[efhmc]

22. Trying to be clever. Didn't work, I guess.

[devilgrrl]

28. Happens to me all the time.

:-)

[Skidmore]

7. So did Franken call him on it?

I had to step out to run an errand for a few minutes so I missed this exchange. Gosh, I wish we could get AA on a regular radio station.

[mzmolly]

11. Yes he did.

;)

[Scairp]

8. Making excuses

What else is new?

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9. I feel a bit like a forum bum, but...

No computer audio and no AAR - how, please explain to me, is it supposed to be Clinton's fault there were no wmds in Iraq?

[devilgrrl]

10. He kept stating that "Clinton said he had them too" kind of BS...

As a previous poster said earlier, he's making excuses. Same old shit, different day with these assholes.

[dennis4868]

12. When Franken said....

that Bush lied in his SOTU Speech, Kay said that "Clinton once was given the wrong speech on his teleprompter during one of his SOTU speeches, so mistakes happen...." WTF??????????

[devilgrrl]

13. Totally!!!!

:grr::mad::grr:

[rman]

25. and people fell asleep half-way clinton's speech

some of the best arguments i ever heard.

[bkcc]

14. yes, but...

He also said that the reason we didn't find any WMD was most likely due to the fact that they were destroyed in the '98 bombing of Iraq that Clinton ordered.

All in all, I'm actually pretty impressed by Kay. I expected him to be way more partisan than he's come across in this interview.

(edit - I'm seriously rethinking the non-partisan thing after listening to Kay's discussion of Einstein, etc. over the past few minutes.)

:shrug:

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17. thanx

suspected it was the same tired rw "not my fault" crap.

:eyes:

[deutsey]

15. He also is saying that Saddam had destroyed the fabric of Iraqi

society, as if sanctions and bombings throughout the '90s never happened.

Saddam certainly is not guilt-free, but I hate when these neocons and their media stooges conveniently forget that actions since Gulf War I contributed to the destruction of Iraq'a infrastructure.

[xchrom]

16. the whole western world forgets

the sanctions and the bombings.

[NewJeffCT]

29. and don't forget

And don't forget when we encouraged the Kurds to rise up & overthrow Saddam and then turned around and left their cheese in the wind...

[Catfight]

18. Drivel Kay-flip flopper. Can't keep his story straight. eom

[zbdent]

19. Yes, we rushed into war to find WMDs (not found)

But the US didn't have enough VMPs (Vests of Military Protection - armored flack jackets). I heard that the soldiers shipping off to Iraq are buying their own, not believing the "promise" by BushCo that they'll get them when they arrive.

[sangh0]

20. Kay is a Repuke!!

Why do you think Bush* appointed him in the first place?

[eleny]

21. Franken is up to any challenge

I think he handled this Kay interview so very well. It's one thing to interview people you respect and with whom you agree. But interviewing someone who has represented "the other side" and not only that is also a CIA guy who can slip and slide in an interview - that's a challenge. Al did a fantastic job. He had facts and he spoke from the heart.

I think he gave Kay a run for money. Kay had to retreat a lot. Enough examples have been pointed out about that in this thread. The Einstein example for one. I came aaway confident that Al has found a long term venue for himself. I've got tremendous confidence in Air America.

[alcuno]

23. Too bad Al isn't calling Kay on the fact that he was all for the invasion

I remember Dr. Kay being all over my tv screen in the run up to the invasion; he's no unbiased "observer." There was a REASON the administration picked Kay; he was already a true believer.

[eleny]

24. Well, the whole interview was aimed

at tearing apart the reasons for being on the side of going to war. So, essentially, Franken was taking Kay apart. It just didn't have that vitriolic tone we associate with right wing talk hosts. At least, that's what I was hearing. :)

[NewJeffCT]

27. He did get Kay to admit...

Franken did get Kay to admit that Bush cherry-picked the intelligence in stating his case for war... I am almost positive I heard that in my rushing out at lunchtime on an errand.