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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:00 PM
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Did the Iraqi Civil War start yesterday?
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 12:05 PM by Homer12
I personally think it did. Obviously a big problem to turn Iraq over when the Majority Shiite population will exact revenge on the sunni minority in the north. The USA will have to take the Sunni side or a larger blood bath will loom (ala Rwanda).

Will all shiit's in the south be labeled as terrorsists now?

My guess is yes, they will be labeled as terrorists by the RW media.

It's only going to get worse, more american soldiers will get killed, and this is why Iraq is a new beacon of freedom and democracy in the middle east.

It's what GW told me so it must be true.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:01 PM
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1. I'm thinking Friday the day the Cleric called for Jihad n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 12:02 PM by xultar
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:01 PM
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2. Oh boy, I hope your wrong.
But you could see it coming, and I guess it will have a "start date".

:(
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:02 PM
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3. If we don't do anything rational to stop it.
Unfortunately, Bush isn't looking very rational today, which isn't exactly surprising.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:02 PM
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4. Don't you need a government to have a civil war?
And watch your spelling of shiite.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:02 PM
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5. i believe it did
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:07 PM
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6. Once again, it's not a Civil War.
Iraqi Sunnis and Shiites are fighting a common foe. They've done this before. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been an Iraqi civil war.



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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:10 PM
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7. It's not a civil war. These people still defending their country.
The Bush administration would like you to believe it's a civil war, b/c that's Iraqis against Iraqis. Better yet, they'd like you to believe it's terrorist infiltrators, or "a few remaining holdouts of Saddam loyalists".

Of course, now that local militias are taking up arms against the Coalition, I don't think anyone can seriously believe those last two anymore.

It's also not a civil war because I don't think the initial war, which we started by invading, has ever ended. For that to have happened, we would have had to had a bona fide Iraqi government in place and a period with some semblance of peace. We have had neither.

Right or wrong, for better or worse, this is not a civil war of Iraqi against Iraqi. This is an uprising against an invading and occupying force, and that force is us.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:11 PM
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8. the Iraq Civil War started immediately when the British left
it was just kept in stasis by a succession of coups and the rise of an ever repressive dictatorship.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:13 PM
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9. It is NOT a civil war that started yesterday
What started yesterday is OUT of Iraqi History, this is the Great Arab Revolt of 2004, this is a bloody uprising and i do not use the word bloody as a metaphor either


Read how the british tried to control (and for the most part supressed) the oen in 1920

But the paralels are just eerie

Governemtn imposed from the Ouside, (King Faisal, Iraqi Authority)

Pressure by the new occupiers (In 1920 well collected taxes, was one of the salient reasons, now we promised freedom but we shut down papers?)

One thing is for sure, this will get far worst than the boys in DC can imagine... they are not used to worst casing this... I will for you. The Sunni and the Shia are about to bury the hatchet and fight us... collectively, something about the enemy of my enemy... if you catch my drift.

What scares me even more is that the so-called adults, HAVE NO CLUE of the dynamics so they are walking into each one of those beautifully laid traps... making things worst.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:21 PM
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10. I wouldn't say "civil war," but it is a turning point probably.
If Sadr and others don't back down, you'll certainly see an increase in anti-occupation resistance. But that's not a civil war. There's no infrastructure actively supporting the occupation on the Iraqi side. The police aren't going to die defending Americans I don't think.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:25 PM
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11. i think its an uprising
or a revolt..
how is it a civil war when the peoples are uniting?
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 01:01 PM
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12. No. The Iraqi counter-attack has started.
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