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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:00 PM
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Franken blames 9-11 on Goldberg, Tripp & Coulter
That's what he said. Because of their attacks on Clinton and the GOP howling that he "wagged the dog" he was not able to act with appropriate force against terrorism. He said "I blame them for 9-11."

Lucianne Goldberg.

Linda Tripp.

Ann Coulter.

Are you listening?

Of course he should have ultimately blamed Richard Mellon Scaife and the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch as well.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:04 PM
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1. So did Trent Lott, Tom DeLay, et al.
Anyone know of a compilation list of all those Repubs who pointed a finger, said Clinton exaggerated the threat and/or claimed Wag the Dog?
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DifferentStrokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:13 PM
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10. Newt the lewd
Gingrich. The leader of the (Republican dog) pack while he's getting set to marry his intern, not just fool around
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:04 PM
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2. He should have moved on it anyway.
It's bad leadership, IMO, to make a decision that important based on media perception. Yeah, the timing sucked, but i think Clarke's statement along these lines was spot-on. He forgot his priorities.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:04 PM
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3. No-No, Bush is "Protecting the Presidency"
I was very much a Lib-Radio skeptic...

But Al's show us pretty good so far...

And I agree - 9-11 was Ann Coulters fault...

And now they have the nerve to suggest that Bush is "Protecting the Presidency" by not releasing the Clinton 911 papers!!!!
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:05 PM
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4. He's not blaming them.
But he is absolutely right that Clinton was unable to accomplish much of anything the last few years of his term thanks to the entire Monica Lewinsky thing.

Don't forget that he did not have the House and Senate on his side most of his two terms, and that's a huge thing. We can't forget that we not only must remove Bush from office, but elect a Democratic House and Senate or it will hardly matter who's in the Oval Office.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:08 PM
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5. Clarke said it best
the Clinton/Monica thing was bad, but the republicans put their party above the interests of the country in their relentess pursuit of Clinton. In other words, what THEY did was far worse than the indiscretion by Clinton.
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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:12 PM
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8. It's right to blame them
These evil SOBs crippled Clinton's presidency with BS and attacked Clinton everytime he tried to take on alQeada with more bullshit about "wagging the dog". Now they claim we don't care about terrorism, but the truth is there for all to see.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:09 PM
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6. And he has a point!
They were the ones digging up the dirt...any dirt to hang the President on. They were the ones who threw the mud at the media, csallenged the mainstream media to carry on about the stories, and it might have been Coulter herself who came up with that "wag the dog" bulshit that the clones in Congress carried on about. Keep in mind...it was the Gingrich people that said they wanted to stop Clinton in his tracks from not only his agenda, but from being an effective president also.

Whenever some winger says "How do I tell my children about oral sex, when Clinton did this, and it was on the evening news all the time?"...I always say, blame the Republicans. They were the ones who drug all this out. Starr rleased the porno book (Starr Report". Clinton said it was a private matter, whicch means that it would've never been on the evening news if he had his way.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:10 PM
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7. Reich Wingers are to blame for 9/11!
Bernard Goldberg should be locked in a prison and hit buttocks should be made READILY available to Bubba in cell B10.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:13 PM
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9. Ever notice?
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 01:14 PM by Canuckistanian
When radical muslims try to justify their violence and hatred they point to, wait for it, Anne Thrax's signature quote, "We should bomb their countries, kill all their leaders and convert them to Christianity".
It was mentioned in an Al Qaeda website once.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:16 PM
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11. I loved Clarke's comment about Frist...
being on "puppy uppers". Too funny!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:20 PM
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12. I might have thought...
...that Franken was trying to start a fuss with the harridans in order to get publicity. Fighting with O'Reilly was good, for example. But this was a short remark with no hype. He really means it. Goldberg, Coulter and Tripp.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:37 PM
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13. Thank you Al! The Dems strike back! It's about time!
It's about time somebody started punching these scumbags right in the teeth.

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:40 PM
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14. Actually he said that he blames them 'in a way'...
...and didn't suggest they were directly responsible. He has a point. They and other RWing moralists in the party wanted to bring Clinton down at ANY expense. Even at the expense of our national security.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:44 PM
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15. It goes like this: Grossly interfere with President Clinton's ability...
...to perform his duties by conducting endless investigations of baseless charges, all of which impugn his character and unfairly sully his reputation.

Then, when Bush fails to act against looming and relatively specific terrorist threats, suggest that, had the Clinton White House not been so mired in and tarnished by those endless investigations of baseless charges, all of which impugned his character and unfairly sullied his reputation, the Bush administration might have been less hesitant about moving forward with previously established anti-terrorism operations.

The above logic was actually presented on Larry King Live, last week:

-snip-

SCHIEFFER: Well, I'll tell you, Larry, I think that all of us were slow to recognize this threat of terrorism. When Bill Clinton first began firing those cruise missiles into the Sudan, and into Afghanistan, he was immediately challenged. People wondered, is he doing this to distract and to try to divert attention from Monica Lewinsky. Every one of his actions at that point, rightly or wrongly, were being questioned. I think that had Monica Lewinsky had not come along, I think all of us might have come to understand the threat of terrorism a lot quicker than we did. I think we were all slow to recognize this.

-snip-

SCHIEFFER: Well, I think there were questions about President Clinton's credibility. As I was just saying a while ago. I think the whole Monica Lewinsky thing brought into question the president's judgment. He was questioned about everything he did. And I think perhaps because of that, perhaps some of the things that the Clinton people did pass on to the Bush people were not taken -- I don't want to say were not taken seriously, but perhaps they were questioned in the beginning.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0403/30/lkl.00.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:10 PM
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16. That's Schieffer's excuse for the media FAILING to cover terror accurately
and so let's themselves off the hook by blaming Clinton.
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