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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:00 PM
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"bizarre coincidence": Cheney monitors crash simulation morning of 9/11
Think about this: What if you were getting ready to pull off the biggest "sneak attack" since Pearl Harbor. What if you needed a plausible "cover story" in case some innocent "paper pusher" happened to discover some of your plans?

Would this simulation of a plane crashing into a building answer all the questions that an innocent reporter or junior officer would have if he/she happened to discover any part of the plan?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=22437

The story - a "limited hangout", I believe (that is, there was no simulation; it is a cover-story to explain otherwise inexplicable activity by senior leadership) - was first quietly put out there in this announcement of a Homeland Security event to mark the first anniversary of the attacks. Regarding one speaker, John Fulton:

On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day.
http://www.nlsi.net/hs-alc-info.htm

The story was then picked up by Associated Press:

AP story:

Agency planned drill for plane crash last Sept. 11
Associated Press
August 22, 2002

WASHINGTON -- In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft crashed into one of its buildings....

Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet crashed into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure. The agency is about four miles from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.

...

"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."

...

The National Reconnaissance Office operates many of the nation's spy satellites. It draws its personnel from the military and the CIA.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm

Another "bizarre coincidence": the pilot of Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, had helped draft the response plans to the crashing of a commercial airliner into the, er, Pentagon:

Barbara Honegger, who worked in the White House under Reagan, points out another coincidence. Researching press reports, she found a 9/16/01 Washington Post story about the pilot of AA flight 77 that, on the morning of 9/11, was said to have crashed into the Pentagon.

The pilot, Charles Burlingame, an ex- F4 Navy flyer, had, as his last Navy mission, helped craft Pentagon response plans in the event of a commercial ariliner hitting the Pentagon.

Pilot drafts plan for response to Pentagon hit. Pilot winds up on plane that hits Pentagon.

Honegger states that Dick Cheney was ultimately in charge of the NRO exercise on the morning of 9/11. He was in the White House Situation Room for that purpose.
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/0514_coincidence.html

Here's Barbara Honegger:

...the main pilot of the 9-11 Pentagon plane, former Navy and then Navy Reservist pilot Charles Burlingame, had recently, in a Reserve assignment at the Pentagon, been part of a Task Force that drafted the Pentagon's emergency response plan on what to do in case a plane hit the building - which his own plane then did. It is therefore very possible - in fact extremely likely, if not certain - that this 'task force' that Flight 77 pilot "Chick" Burlingame was part of was the Cheney counterterrorism preparedness task force, and that the Pentagon plane pilot, therefore, directly knew and even worked with/for Cheney. and

Burlingame's 9-11 Pentagon plane not only hit the Pentagon that morning, it struck a Command and Control center for that morning's counterterrorism "game" exercise, killing most, if not all, of the "players". We know this because Army personnel from Ft. Monmouth, New Jersey were on special duty assignment at the Pentagon that morning for an emergency response exercise and were killed when Burlingame's plane hit. Ft. Monmouth, New Jersey also happens to be the headquarters for White House/Presidential communications, including therefore probably also for Air Force One (this is discoverable) -- and recall the warning "Air Force One is next" and the 'secret code' which was called into the White House that morning which WH press secretary Ari Fleischer revealed as a means of explaining why Pres. Bush left Florida for a military base and did not return to the White House. This "warning" was probably called into the White House, if true, by either the Ft. Monmouth White House communications headquarters and/or the Ft. Monmouth counterterrorism exercise "game" players temporarily at the Pentagon that morning.

This nexus is completely and totally beyond coincidence....
http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pen08.html

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:13 PM
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1. well, so much for Condi's theory that . . .
they couldn't possibly have ever imagined that someone might use planes as weapons that fly them into buildings . . . Lie #27,536 from the BushCo administration . . .
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:15 PM
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2. thus the intercepted
message supposedly heard 9/10

'the match is on'

i remember reading about that quite awhile back....who was writing about that? I believe it was a female author....?
dp
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:44 PM
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5. I recall that it was this leak that sent Cheney ballistic.
I believe he wanted to administer lie detector tests to the members of the Senate Intelligence committee to find out who leaked that story.

very interesting.....
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:53 PM
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17. i recall the theory was
that someone knew of the plan for the exercise, and the 'match' was to send real hijacked planes into WTC and Pentagon which everyone would have thought was part of the exercise. Which gave more credence as to why NORAD stood down...assuming it was part of the plan, etc.

there were 2 messages intercepted, and both could be explained hypothetically in the theory. But now I can't remember where it was promoted. Either way, the WH is covering up a grand f*ck up, or they were allowing it to happen all the same.

Will we ever learn the truth in our lifetime?
dp
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:28 PM
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3. so was Condi
out of the loop? did she and the defense dept spaek about these "fake" crashes? If so this Proves she was lying about the fact they never thought an airplane would be used.......
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:52 PM
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9. that is a stark contradiction
given the present media attention on all of this...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:37 PM
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4. I will never understand...
...why the WH hasn't used this simulation as a reason why air defenses were so screwed up that morning. It covers their ass. Why is there a virtual news blackout on this?

Why?

Why?

Why?

The only explanation I can think of is very, very sinister.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:44 PM
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6. It DID cover their ass, they could pull off 9-11 with unwitting accomplice
By not speaking out, however, those who may have thought it was a drill have become accomplices.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:45 PM
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7. So tell us already
It fits in very nicely with MIHOP. The real reason for the stand Down that morning.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:46 PM
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8. I agree...this was a built in excuse, so why not have used this
to explain the confusion? Of course, if "Vigilant Guardian" was running, where were the AF fighters involved in this simulation?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:00 PM
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12. They were all in the air up and down the east coast
that's why the WH is trying to stiffle this info.

If it had been a traditional hijacking they would have scrambled these fighters, that were already up there anyway, and they would have escorted the planes to safe landings and been hailed as heros.

Instead someone pulled a fast one and started flying the planes into buildings and they didn't know how to react because their original plans had fallen apart. So they freaked out and didn't react at all, which made them look even worse.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:21 PM
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14. They didn't anticipate a traditional hijacking.
Intelligence had been received of the intention to fly planes into buildings. That intelligence has been covered up. This is part of Sibel Edmond's bombshell.

And security for the Genoa summit in the summer of 2001 was alerted to the possibility of remote-controlled planes crashing into the conference. It was the last thing James Hatfield wrote before he was suicided: ("Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?" - http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html ).

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:42 PM
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15. Condi stated that they anticipated traditional hijackings
at the same time she put her foot in her mouth and said no one ever expected someone to turn airplanes into missiles and fly them into buildings.

The question is what the heck did she mean when she said they expected traditional hijackings?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:38 PM
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16. my thought on Condi:
she knew only what she needed to know to get her to play along and compromise her. She certainly didn't need to know all. Very few did. It's quite conceivable she was told to expect traditional hijackings. But there are some who expected more, and got it.

Most senior officials, like Clarke, were not in the loop of conspirators. But if there is any truth to the administration's complicity, then there are also loops within loops.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:22 PM
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18. I agree
that's why some of them had that deer in the headlights look that morning. I don't think things went down the way they were supposed to that day. After that the best they could do was to try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:53 PM
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10. 9/11 "War Games" by the US military before and during the attacks
"Vigilent Guardian" and the "simulation"

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:54 PM
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11. Pictures from this event used to be online
remember ? of course everyone was more dismissive about this back then.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:19 PM
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13. They're still online. Here they are...
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:27 PM
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19. "bizarre coincidence"
- That's what it will be called until the Democrats find a spine and defend this country against this gang of thugs.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 03:18 PM
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20. Kicking this important thread
This under reported story could well be at the core of the many layers of lies regarding bushco* and 9-11. It seems to me that this event plays strongly into the very real and tragic events of that day. IMHO.
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