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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:52 AM
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Found Proof: Lynne Cheney in PEOC on 9-11
This is the page on the WH website. The picture has been deleted but the text is still there. What the hell was this woman doing is the Presidential Emergency Operations Center during the attack? And what the hell was doing and saying while she was there.

Maybe there was a good excuse to evacuate her to this secure location. But even if there was no where else to take her, she should have been seen and not heard. Did Lynne Cheney interfere with the response to the attack on 9-11? And why did Dick Cheney allow this to happen?

Oh and by the way, why did the WH delete the picture? We'd love to see it.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/911/911day/05_njs.html

Presidential Emergency Operations Center

Vice President Cheney talks with his wife, Lynne Cheney, in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center in the early afternoon after the terrorist attacks Sept. 11, 2000.




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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:57 AM
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1. "early afternoon" ??? WTF?
I can ALMOST understand if she was down there that morning on some kind of lesbian-novelist field trip, but shouldn't she have had her ass kicked out of there as soon as it was being used for response to the attacks?

Jeebus, if that would've been Tipper, or Hillary, holy shit would the "librul media" be going insane.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:49 AM
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25. Lynne Cheney campaign contributions
I hope you've digested breakfast already...
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate.php?last=Cheney&first=Lynne
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:58 AM
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2. Scrambling to cover their lies again
Very convincing proof the present administration is a bunch of liars
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robnycny Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:58 AM
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3. "Mrs Cheney was more than just...
...a family member who had to be protected. Like her husband, she was a right-wing idealogue and she was offering her advise and opinions in the bunker." - Richard Clarke, Against All Enemies
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:00 AM
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4. Wasn't there a general
who got in a bit of trouble for letting his wife sit in on meetings?

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robnycny Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:04 AM
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7. Not that I've read of, YET.
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 09:07 AM by robnycny
I bought the book last night and have not had a chance to get far. But what I have read is riveting - cannot wait to settle in for an afternoon... :)

edited out an extra couple o' words :)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:11 AM
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10. It was Tommy Franks
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 09:18 AM by DoYouEverWonder
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77531,00.html

WASHINGTON ? An investigation into allegations that Army Gen. Tommy Franks allowed his wife to attend classified briefings won't affect Franks' ability to lead a U.S.-led war against Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday.


Edit: Found info.

Of course nothing came of it but it, but it didn't sound life his wife was interfering or participating in the meetings either.


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robnycny Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:15 AM
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12. Sounds familiar,
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 09:34 AM by robnycny
Awww, Franks. Cool, thanks for the info.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:19 AM
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13. i think it was White
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 09:20 AM by rchsod
wrong guy
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:01 AM
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5. The more I think about 9/11
The more it occurs to me that Cheney was the mastermind of 9/11. He was in control, there, at the Whitehouse. He put a stop to the standard operations procedures, SOP, that our air defenses had begun operating under.

The testimony to the 9/11 commission by Sec. of Trans (?) is proof of Cheney's control.

Maybe Bush was clueless? That is not hard to beleive, eh?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:07 AM
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8. dude, cheney is the de facto president, coz the chimp IS clueless
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:09 AM
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9. From what I've read so far in Clarke's book...
Cheney didn't do shit. Neither did CONdi.
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robnycny Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:11 AM
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11. Exactly.
For anyone who has not gone and grabbed a copy of Clarke's book, do so immediately.

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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:12 AM
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20. Exactly...they did chit and helped the catastrophe along....
They they the enemy was coming but thought it would be a small thing....that would help them along with the plans to attack a rich oil state (per Clarke)...and as BinLaden had been preaching to his followers.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:02 AM
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6. proving once again that lynne
is way more than just a neocon mouthpiece she is an active white house operative.
with power and control.
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RoadRunner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:26 AM
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14. Here's what Clarke said she was doing there.
From Clarke's book, p 17:

“Cressey told me that Fenzel was looking for me. I picked up the open line to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, only to find that once again it was a dial tone. When I punched the PEOC button, the person answering the line grunted and passed the phone to Major Fenzel. “Who is the asshole answering the phone for you, Mike?” I asked.”

“That would be the Vice President, Dick.”


And, from p. 18:

“It’s fine,” Major Fenzel whispered, “but I can’t hear the crisis conference because Mrs. Cheney keeps turning down the volume on you so she can hear CNN … and the Vice President keeps hanging up the open line to you.” Mrs. Cheney was more than just a family member who had to be protected. Like her husband, she was a right-wing ideologue and she was offering her advice and opinions in the bunker.”
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:28 AM
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15. Why the hell did Cheney keep hanging up
the friggin' line to Clarke?

This gets more unbelievable by the second. No wonder these guys would nuke something before they will ever testify publicly.
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RoadRunner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:36 AM
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16. I think it was distracting to his wife. Here's another tidbit:
from p. 19:

“The comms in this place are terrible,” he {Cheney} replied. His calls to the President were dropping off.

“Now you know why I wanted the money for a new bunker?” I could not resist. The President had canceled my plans for a replacement facility.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:38 AM
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17. Offering her advice!
She should testify under oath and in public to the commission. Where has she been anyway? Oh, yeah, in hiding with Dick (but I'll bet she is out there raising funds for four more years now).
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:19 PM
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30. The WH supposedly "vetted" this book. Why would that be allowed in
the book? Seems like they would have fought to keep that out? Very strange. Clarke seems to be revealing so much inside stuff and yet the White House had control over what was to be published.

How does this make sense?
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:46 AM
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18. She was taking notes
yeah, that's what she was doing. ;)

<snip>
Information, much of it wrong, was pouring into the vice president's command post that morning. Lynne Cheney, sitting in a corner, started writing down the details as they flooded in. As she later read them to Newsweek, the litany of erroneous reports conveys the impression of a terrorist blitz on the nation's capital: a report of an explosion at the Lincoln memorial; a car bombing at the State Department; a bomb at the Capitol. A military officer from the Communications Room announced that a threat had been received against Air Force One. "How do we know?" asked Eric Edelman, Libby's top aide. The officer replied that the warning included the aircraft's code name, which is classified. The threat was almost surely bogus, though to this day White House officials say they do not know where it came from. "I don't think we'll ever know," says National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m4PRN/2001_Dec_23/81078214/p1/article.jhtml
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:37 AM
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23. "I don't think we'll ever know." says...Condoleezza Rice
Yeah, no KIDDING, you lying sack of shit.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:39 AM
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24. Maybe the 911 Commission should ask to see
Lynn's notes? And while they are at make a testify under oath as to what she was doing that morning and how come such a major security breach was allowed?

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:52 AM
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19. Let's Force BOTH Cheneys To Testify!!
I expect Condi Rice will either dance her way to the next round of public hearings or be political history soon...next, we need to shine the light on Mr. Chenney's hidey hole and find out what he knew and when he stopped knowing it.

This is the most evil bastard in this whole cabal who callously is throwing away American lives for his own power and profit, and it's high time this is exposed. His wife has NO right to be in such a high security place at such a critical time...she's a DEPENDENT, not a confirmed official of that regime and her presence and involvement at such a critical moment should be examined. Who was she talking to? What was she doing? Was she giving orders? Were they being followed. If she did interfere, she should be indicted of sedition.

Yep, part of me salivates at seeing the Dickster in the dock having to answer a lot of questions. That could be a string all to itself here..."What question would you ask of Chenney?"...I bet we could come up with a good 50 without breaking a sweat.

In a perfect world, Chenney would have never been allowed back in government service once he took the Haliburton gig and surely wouldn't have gotten any clearance with any taint of impropriety (stock options being put in limbo my ass...). As someone astutely posted recently, Bunnypants stands to inherit a ton of Carlisle shares and Chenney's sitting on lots of options in several war profiteers. Let's shine the light bright!!!
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:37 AM
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22. Mrs. Cheney's testimony wouldn't be a violation of the
separation of powers, in other words that lame excuse couldn't very well be used on a nongovernmental employee.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:50 PM
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31. Not The Testimony That's The Problem
It's her being in the White House hidey hole and exerting authority when she has none. The easy comparison is replacing Lynne Chenney with Tipper Gore and see how the RW Buzzsaw would go after that. And surely, if she was issuing orders and acting in some official capacity without having an actual title, she is impersonating a government official and should be investigated.

Mrs. Cheney may be qualified for a government position, but currently doesn't hold one, thus shouldn't be accorded any different treatment than the wife of any other government official. If she wants to play National Security Advisor, let her face Congressional approval. Methinks there could be an opening in the near future.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:17 AM
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21. It cost a lot of money to have Sky Seats at the Super Bowl.....
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Bog Frog Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:53 AM
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26. "she should have been seen and not heard"
The caption says the vp & his wife are talking in the photo. Perhaps they were saying things like, "have you talked to the girls? Are they okay?"

Hmm? That was a horrible day and 300 million Americans were all talking to each other and saying the same things, whether or not they were in any physical danger.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:05 AM
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27. Because she shouldn't have been there in the first place
no less interfering.

It is documented in this link that she was doing more than exchanging pleasantries with her husband that morning. She was participating or possibly interfering with the management of the response to an ongoing terrorist attack, while it was illegal for her to be there to begin with.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m4PRN/2001_Dec_23/81078214/p3/article.jhtml?term=


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Bog Frog Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:50 AM
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29. I don't doubt you but
what makes it illegal? The article details what she was doing there but doesn't say why it was illegal for her to be there.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:40 AM
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28. Eva Braun and Mrs. Goebbels were in the bunker when the 3rd Reich
went down too! Doesn't mean anything other than the fact that the whores get to follow their men to the death.

Let's see, didn't Mousselini's mistress share Il Duce's sorry end? Hanging upside down by the heels--a fitting fate for a dictator's camp whore.

When the current bastards in charge finally fall, I expect to see Dick trying to make his escape wearing his wife's favorite designer dress. B* I expect to be found quivering behind Laura's ample rear end.
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Sparky McGruff Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:15 PM
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32. I think I found it....
This is a photo included in an archive of the WH pages on another site. I'm pretty sure this is the right photo; the photo referred to by the white house page has the name "9-cheney-lynne-vp-v1541-07adb-398h.jpg"; this one has apparently been shortened to "9-cheney-lynne_-07adb-398h.jpg" (presumably because the name was too long for this server).

Amazing what's hidden under our noses; at the time the WH published it, id didn't seem to be of any significance...




"Vice President Cheney talks with his wife, Lynne Cheney, in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center in the early afternoon after the terrorist attacks Sept. 11, 2001."
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:45 PM
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33. Nice find
She sure looks like she had a seat at the main table. And she looks like she doing a little more than just taking notes.

I'd love to see the rest of that role of film. Where's a subpoena when you need one?

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:31 PM
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34. This is quite interesting.......does Mrs. Cheney have National Security
clearance?

I posted this on another thread....


I've just heard recently about this factoid of Mrs. Cheney being in the Bunker with CEO. And this annecdote about her shutting down the volume on the phone to listen to CNN is odd to the extreme.

(1) Wouldn't you expect the government to be getting the very best intel and news...unvarnished/undistorted as I'm sure network news would be? So why would this non-official be turning down the volume on realtime info in favor of CNN?

(2) Or maybe this interefernce was intentional? Part of the plan to deliberately kneecap the reaction to the developing events?

(3) Why wouldn't everyone be meeting in either the situation room or the bunker? Why would Cheney be so isolated when he was so close to the action?

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