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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:13 AM
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Let the spin/smears begin: Drudge says CBS owns Clarke book
CBSNEWS PUSHED BOOK IT OWNS; '60 MINUTES' DID NOT REVEAL PARENT COMPANY'S FINANCIAL STAKE IN CLARKE PROJECT!

developing..................


http://www.drudgereport.com
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:15 AM
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1. So is he admitting
that ownership can indeed color what is/is not reported to the American people? And who owns most of the media?

developing..........

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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:19 PM
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28. Wasnt it CBS that pulled the Reagan movie ?
If they were so biased wouldnt they have let it air?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:29 PM
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32. True, but truth has nothing to do with Totalitarian Propagandists
The Imperial Family who runs him and Druge himself have little to do with the "truth" as Free People define it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:16 AM
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2. So
Clarke will be under oath when he goes before the 9/11 commission. I did not hear one person from the administration dispute the facts.
They just said it was political.

This has real legs
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:16 AM
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3. Drudge also reports that the Clarke segment drew a huge audience
FLASH: CBS '60 MINUTES' TOP-RATED SHOW OF SUNDAY NIGHT WITH 11.9 RATING/19 SHARE... STAHL INTERVIEW WITH CLARKE LIFTS EYE TO WIN IN PRIME, MOST-AUDIENCE, ACCORDING TO OVERNIGHTS...
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:16 AM
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4. Its mind boggling
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 11:26 AM by Jim4Wes
I can't keep up with all the spin.

edited: I keep dropping words duh!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:21 AM
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7. How sad, it has become The Battle of the Spin.
We have competing Herders trying their best to lure the most sheep to their group/flock/party.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:18 AM
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5. I thought I heard them say this...
(Clarke's) allegations are also made in a book, "Against All Enemies," which is being published Monday by Free Press, a subsidiary of Simon & Schuster. Both CBSNews.com and Simon & Schuster are units of Viacom.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:21 AM
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6. Lol
It's right there in the story.

think i'll drop Mr. Sludge a note :D
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:55 PM
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26. To be fair
I have the videotape of the story, and on the actual show, they never revealed this relationship.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:25 PM
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30. what difference does it make
:shrug:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:21 AM
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8. That same "parent company" shut down "The Reagans."
NOW Drudge has a problem with "parent companies?"

:nopity:


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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:21 AM
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9. Good. let's make them both rich! :-) Stay away from Faux, NY Post etc
and all the books from Regnery
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:24 AM
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10. Whoop Dee Doo - News Flash
of course they will - except I wouldn't look to Viacom rightwing radio stations to push the book. Except for Howard Stern.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:27 AM
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11. If that's the RNC talking point...
Bush REALLY is in trouble.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:32 AM
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12. I was sewer diving over a freerepublic this morning.
They are accepting the Rove spin 100%. I'd post a link if I thought their comments were worth repeating. The threads I saw were short so maybe they've been deleting anything that doesn't follow their masters instruction. The gist of it is blame Clinton, blame Clinton, blame Clinton and Saddam was probably involved anyway. The usual excuses for the party of personal responsibility.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:37 AM
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15. blame clinton?
i didn`t know he was the president-hell maybe they still think he`s president
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:52 AM
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17. Those people are the true enemy
Those people are the biggest threat to democracy.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:36 AM
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13. i thought that`s what these
screw heads want..acouple of news outlets they can control...i guess CBS-viacom isn`t following the party line. georgie, personally call little powellie and cry to him.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:37 AM
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14. Sent Drudge a Message through his site
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 11:38 AM by Neo Progressive
Now a little bird told me this, but the host of the Sean Hannity show, I believe his name is Sean Hannity, had a financial stake in the sales of "Deliver us from Evil." Sean Hannity has been pushing this book a lot on the aforementioned radio show, and I don't believe I've heard him mention his financial stake in the book's sales.

edit: formatting and style
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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:43 AM
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16. He's been plugging it on his Faux News
show as well, with his lil' lap dog Colmes playing along!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:57 AM
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18. New Press Publisher is a subsid of Simon Schuster(ms) which is MSNBC
Imus was talking about it this morning..and he couldn't bash the book because his owners published it :7...i hate Imus
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:07 PM
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19. Whatever.
Let's see:

Rove thinking:
1. Can we trash Clarke's Character? No
2. Can we question his motives? Not really
3. Can we question the facts in the book? No
4. Gee, did CBS reveal its connection to the the Book Publisher? "Get Drudge on the phone..."

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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:13 PM
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20. Clarke Interview
Sometime this week, Richard Clarke will be interviewed under oath. Just wait for the White House's reaction then!
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:30 PM
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23. And the fact that Condi REFUSES to be take an oath and do it in Public
If she were a (D) the RW would be frothing at the mouth about Condi being deceitful gutless wonder.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:13 PM
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21. Amazing how the PROBLEM becomes the DEFENSE
Seven media companies control 90% of the media we consume every day.

Notice that this book (as noted in the LBN thread) was IGNORED by everyone who doesn't have a finacial interest in it.

What if it were one of the thousands of important books published by independent book publishers? We wouldn't know about it at all.

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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:19 PM
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22. bottom line of this is
Who is willing to testify under oath as to these events... and who isn't.

Clear your mind of everything else.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:32 PM
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24. good, sound advice/logic, WH
:thumbsup:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:36 PM
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25. So what.......
Fox hawks it's own products all the time. In fact, they all do.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:11 PM
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27. so, is drudge saying we should repeal The Telecommunications Act of '96?
... I doubt it ... no, he's just a weapon of mass

distraction

where was Drudge when mAnn Coulter's book 'Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism' hit the stands?
His journalistic butt should have been all over the conglomerate octopus ... right down to the roots, and who who powers behind the publication

FWIW ...

"Treason"'s publisher, Crown Forum, has the following "links" on its website:

Drudge Report
Front Page Magazine
Human Events
National Review Online
NewsMax
Right Wing News
TownHall
The Weekly Standard
World Net Daily

http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/crownforum/

Now, Crown Forum, is owned by RANDOM HOUSE, which is owned by Bertelsmann AG, one of the foremost media companies in the world. http://www.randomhouse.com/about/history.html

Random House, Inc. assumed its current form with its acquisition by Bertelsmann in 1998, which brought together the imprints of the former Random House, Inc. with those of the former Bantam Doubleday Dell. Random House, Inc.'s publishing groups include, the Bantam Dell Publishing Group, the Crown Publishing Group, the Doubleday Broadway Publishing Group, the Knopf Publishing Group, the Random House Audio Publishing Group, Random House Children's Books, the Random House Diversified Publishing Group, the Random House Information Group, the Random House Publishing Group, and Random House Ventures.

Name: BOL.US Online, Inc.
Address: 1540 Broadway, New York, New York
Designated Filer: Bertelsmann AG
Issuer and Ticker Symbol: barnesandnoble.com inc. (bnbn)
Date of event Requiring Filing: May 24, 1999

Signature: BOL.US Online, Inc.


Random House Board

Peter Olson (Chairman and CEO) **
Joerg Pfuhl (Verlagsgruppe Random House)
Gail Rebuck (Random House UK Group)
Richard Sarnoff (Corporate Development, RH Ventures LLC)
Edward Volini (Deputy Chairman, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Administrative Officer)

**Peter Olson began his career as a lawyer. In 1976 he was an associate in the office of Baker & Botts* in Washington. He then moved to Tokyo for two years, where he worked in the office of Hamada & Matsumoto. Then for nearly a decade, he was a banker with the Dresdner Bank in Frankfurt and in Tokyo for six years, returning to Germany in 1987. A year later, Bertelsmann was able to recruit him where he first familiarized himself with the company’s strategies and operations working at the Corporate Center in Guetersloh.

* as in the BFEE's James A. Baker & Botts

all part of mAnn Coulter's extended family

Bertelsmann AG is a non-public stock corporation. At present, its shareholders are the Bertelsmann Foundation, Groupe Bruxelles Lambert and the Mohn family. Bertelsmann has signed an agreement with the Zeit Foundation that will enable a step-by-step buyback of shares held by the latter. Once this has been achieved, the capital shares will be held by three shareholders: the Bertelsmann Foundation (57.6%), the Mohn family (17.3%) and Groupe Bruxelles Lambert (25.1%, of which 0.1% are non-voting shares). The voting rights held by the Bertelsmann Foundation and the Mohn family are exercised by Bertelsmann Verwaltungsgesellschaft (BVG). BVG will then control 75% of voting rights, while Groupe Bruxelles Lambert will control 25%.

1933 - The Publisher and the Third Reich

As the publisher catered to the contemporary tastes of a broad readership, it increasingly extended its range of classical literature and "massmarket" fiction to include books with militaristic themes. Over the years, it also published books with nationalistic, racial and even anti-Semitic content. C. Bertelsmann Verlag printed its books at locations throughout Europe and subsequently became the largest supplier of Armed Forces editions to German soldiers. The publishing house linked its conservative Christian tradition with Nationalist Socialist ideology - a connection that ensured the publisher's survival and economic success for a long period of time. Meanwhile, the company came into conflict with competing factions in the Nationalist Socialist cultural and economic bureaucracy. In connection with a lawsuit involving the illegal procurement of paper stock and as part of the mobilization of Germany's overall economy, C. Bertelsmann Verlag was shut down in 1944 after it was deemed to be non-essential to the war effort. An Independent Historical Commission later inquired into this subject and published a comprehensive report, "Bertelsmann in the Third Reich," in 2002.


Links links links interconnections here and there
Audible, Inc.

With new consumer exposure via partnerships and other marketing efforts, we intend to continue our strong growth and achieve cash flow positive operations. Our recent transaction with Bertelsmann and Apax partners, which was announced on August 4, 2003, allows us to add a stronger balance sheet and cash position to our tactical and strategic progress.

Audible, Inc., Board of Directors

Gary L. Ginsberg , age 40, has been a director since April 2001. Since January 1999, Mr. Ginsberg has been serving as Executive Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications of News Corporation*, and as a member of the Executive Management Committee since June 2000. Prior to joining News Corporation, Mr. Ginsberg served as managing director at the New York based strategic consulting firm of Clark & Weinstock from November 1996 until December 1998. Mr. Ginsberg also served as Senior Editor and Counsel of George Magazine from March 1995 until November 1996.

*News Corp.= Rupert Murdoch's empire

Johannes Mohn, age 53, has been a director since April 2001. Since June 2001, Mr. Mohn has been serving as Vice President of Media Technology at Bertelsmann A.G. From December 1998 to May 2001, Mr. Mohn served as Vice President of Technology Management at Direct Group, Bertelsmann A.G. From May 1995 to November 1998, Mr. Mohn served as Managing Director of Bertelsmann Kalendar GmbH, a subsidiary of Bertelsmann A.G. and also served as Managing Director of Mohndruck Kalendar und Promotion Verlag GmbH, a subsidiary of Bertelsmann A.G., and Dohse & Broelemann GmbH.

Directors Whose Terms Expire in 2004


Richard Brass , age 52, has been a director since April 1999. Since November 1997, Mr. Brass has been Vice President, Technology Development at Microsoft Corporation. From 1989 to July 1997, Mr. Brass worked for Oracle Corporation, serving in various roles, including Senior Vice President.



Winthrop Knowlton , age 72, has been a director since November 1996. Since 1989, Mr. Knowlton has been serving as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Knowlton Brothers, Inc., a management company for limited partnerships and offshore funds investing in the U.S.


Oren Zeev , age 39, has been a director since August 1, 2003. Mr. Zeev joined Apax Partners, one of the world's leading private equity funds in 1995 and has been a partner since 1999. Previously, Mr. Zeev was a research staff member at IBM.


Directors Whose Terms Expire in 2005


Donald R. Katz , age 51, has been the Chairman of the board of directors since April 1999, and a director since co-founding Audible in November 1995. Since July 2001, Mr. Katz has been serving as our Chief Executive Officer. From October 1999 to February 2000 and from November 1995 to March 1998, Mr. Katz served as our President and Chief Executive Officer. Prior to co-founding Audible, Mr. Katz was an author, business journalist and media consultant for over twenty years.


Richard Sarnoff , age 44, has been a Director since March 2001. Mr. Sarnoff has served as President of Random House Ventures since March 2000, and as President of Random House Corporate Development Group since June 2000. In 2002, Mr. Sarnoff became a member of the Supervisory Board of Bertelsmann AG, the parent company of Random House, Inc. From 1998 to 2000, Mr. Sarnoff served as Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Random House after having served in the same capacity at Bantam Doubleday Dell, Inc. from 1996 to 1998. Prior to 1998, Mr. Sarnoff served Bantam Doubleday Dell (predecessor to Random House), in various management positions, including Senior Vice President of Diversified Publishing and New Media, Vice President of Strategic Planning, Director of Marketing for the Bantam Publishing Division, and Director of Planning for the Sales and Marketing Division. Mr. Sarnoff currently also serves on the Board of Directors of The Princeton Review, Inc. (Nasdaq: REVU), Ebrary, Inc., Xlibris, Inc., and Classic Media, Inc.


Andrew P. Kaplan , age 49, has been a director since February 2002. Mr. Kaplan has been our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer since June 1999. From June 1997 to May 1999, Mr. Kaplan served as Chief Financial Officer of Thomson Corporation Publishing International, a division of The Thomson Corporation. From September 1995 to May 1997, Mr. Kaplan served as Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Vertis, Inc., an advertising services company. From March 1989 to August 1995, Mr. Kaplan served as Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Time Life, a division of AOL Time Warner Inc.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2E115EC7

it's all about control, Drudge, baby -- and, you are in their grip




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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:23 PM
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29. Now thats some investigative reporting !
Ever think of a career in media?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:28 PM
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31. Yawn. Like listening to Julius Streicher in Germany 1935
www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Streicher.html

The thing about Totalitarian Mouthpieces like Drudge is that you always know what they are going to say/print, what angle they are going to take, before they even do themselves.

Totalitarianism and Totalitarians are boring.

Bush and Drudge are boring in the same way Hitler and Stericher, Stalin and Prvada, were.
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