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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:10 PM
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Turn on C-Span2 (Sun noon ET)--historians slam Bush
This is mainly about history, but they go out of their way to make their opinion of Bush known.

from another post I wrote for another thread just now:

I don't know if they're going to re-air it, but C-Span 2 showed


a panel at the Museum of American History. The auditorium was huge and filled to overflowing. It was in D.C. on President's Day, a panel about lesser-known Presidents who deserve to be re-evaluated. I almost didn't watch it, but it was AMAZING.

The moderator was Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. And the panel was John Siegenthaler, Hans Louis Trefousse (prof. emeritus, Brooklyn College), Kevin Phillips and John Dean. The first 2 are self-identified Democrats, and the last 2 Republicans.

Well. They were all talking about Presidents, of course. And every single one of them (all 5) went out of his way to SLAM *Bush. The first time, the whole audience gasped and then exploded in applause (with a few angry *-loyalists looking angry). The consensus among this very distinguished group of historians was that *Bush will go down in history as the worst "president" ever. A pretty powerful statement. Try to see it if you can. (The discussions of Polk, Hays, McKinley and Harding were also interesting, of course.)

Here's the info on the panel from c-span.org

Forum
Presidential Biographers
Smithsonian Associates
National Museum of American History
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 180568 - 02/16/2004 - 2:12 - $75.00

Phillips, Kevin, Editor and Publisher,
Dean, John, Attorney
Schlesinger, Arthur Jr., Professor Emeritus, City University of New York, History
Trefousse, Hans Louis, Professor Emeritus, Brooklyn College, History
Seigenthaler, John, Author

Members of a President’s Day panel talked about the presidential biographies they wrote for Times Books’ American Presidents series. Mr. Schlesinger, the general editor of the series, moderated the panel. Mr. Phillips wrote William McKinley. Mr. Dean is the author of Warren G. Harding. Mr. Trefousse wrote Rutherford B. Hayes. Mr. Seigenthaler is the author of James K. Polk. Following prepared remarks, the panelists responded to questions from the audience.



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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:12 PM
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1. I Told All I Know That Bush Would Go Down As The Worst President Ever
Good to see that the historians agree.
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shooga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:27 PM
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4. unfortunately, Bush Mafia ...
... has ALREADY cancelled some speaking events of these historians ...
(so much for the Republican love of the Constitution's right of free speach)


I have a funny feeling that Nader is being funded (cash) by Bush Mafia right now.



http://www.explorenader04.org


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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:16 PM
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2. Thanks for the head's up!! I am watching online
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:21 PM
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3. LOL...
this is great! Big Slam from Schlesinger on bush ....ROFLMAO!!!

O8)
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:40 PM
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5. Wow! Wish I had seen it!
I feel very confident that Bush will go down as the very worst President ever. People in the future will marvel at the political climate that put him in office and how we (the opposition) were so ineffective at opposing the whole Republican neo-con philosophy.

I don't know if future historians will recognize the significance of the neo-con's joining forces with the religious right. This has made it very difficult for Democrats to oppose the neo-con agenda because a significant number of Americans see this as opposing God and Christianity itself. America in 2004 is a more close-minded, anti-intellectual society than ever before. Jefferson, Madison and Franklin must be rolling in their graves. To defeat the right we're ultimately going to have to attack Christianity as it's defined today. That's going to be tough because IMO there is no more formidable foe than a religious fanatic.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:44 PM
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6. Loved it when AS said "not to mention"
when talking of disastrous presidencies. He left it hanging out there, but everyone knew he meant shrub and the audience laughed like hell.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:51 PM
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7. I would have enjoyed just watching


the faces of the Bushbots in the audience turning various shades of purple.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:56 PM
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8.  now Trefousse
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 12:57 PM by buycitgo
talking about hayes

wasn't he the other one who got less votes/stole election in sleazy way, served just one term?

hope that precednent stands
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