California Democratic Party Killing Itself!

[patmacsf]

With each passing day, it's readily apparent that the California Democratic Party is hellbent on destroying itself from within. A few choice examples:

1) Of course everyone knows about the recall. This anti-democracy jihad being conducted by the Republican party here has the elected democratic state leadership falling all over themselves to assist. Take Secretary of State Shelley's failure to do anything about the illegal signature gatherers or to even attempt to clarify the actual deadline controversy within the judicial system. But, this isn't really surprising since it is Secretary Shelley who last May decided that State law regarding filing deadlines for the November 2004 Presidential election were irrelevent and therefore George Bush should be included on the ballot, even though the Republican party convention designed to wrap themselves in 9/11 glory during their NYC convention would mean they would miss the September 1 filing deadline law. Absurdly, Shelley in his rush to get "W" on the ballot doesn't even seem to think that some Republican other than "w" would even be on the ballot ... (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/05/15/MN243319.DTL)

2) Democratic Lt. Governor Bustamante deliberately set the special election as late in the required 60 day period as possible in order to give Republicans weeks in order to formalize their challenge and to allow a multitude of crackpots and other losers to pay the $3500 filing fee in order to clog the ballot and diminish Gov Davis' chances.

It's time to throw out all of the wussie democratic bums in the great Republic of California and get some real Democrats elected who will stand up to the Republicans! God help us otherwise.

[Clete]

1. Oh are we allowed to criticize the Democrats in

California's government now? Last time I put up a post similar to this I was put down as well, a freeper, without the actual word being used.

Yes, I think our elected Democratic representatives have fallen far short of standing up for our interests and putting those criminal thinking Republicans in their place. As the majority they should be walking all over these special interests and putting the interests of the people who elected them first.

[DagmarK]

2. Bustamente is DLC.

I am not surprised by his complicitous act. Not one bit.

There's a lot of defense of the DLC on this board -- or, rather, pro-DLC people complain, "why are you guys sooo against the DLC."

I finally spent some time at their website.....and it's a STRANGE NEW WORLD. In fact...just the idea that they call everything NEW creeps me out. (Kind of how the PNAC.....in their use of the word NEW creeps me out). New Democrats!

Well.....I happen to think that OLD DEM ideals are timeless and priceless. Food for all. Housing for all. Healthcare for All. Fair taxes for all.

The DLC IS the corporate take-over of our party. The corporations are taking over ALL parts of our political process. In the republican party.....it's the PNAC.

Corporations are corporations.....and we need to fight them.

[patmacsf]

3. Wha' happ'n?!

What happened to the Democratic Party and is there any chance of salvaging it??

The irony is just so obvious between one Secretary of State who falls all over himself appeasing Republicans who need the law changed to help their candidate in a presidential election and another Secretary of State who stands by the spirit if not the letter of the law in order to deny voters the right to have their votes counted and ends up in Congress for her efforts.

[lcordero]

4. Bustamente wasn't in the new democrat directory

which is at this address:
http://www.ndol.org/new_dem_dir_action.cfm
So he isn't DLC/PNAC

I think that they might have been counting on McAuliffe not permitting anybody from being on the ballot and having a (D) next to their name for this ballot.

I have a whole bunch of complaints about this situation that I could write a book about this alone but these are my two main complaints:
1. Davis wouldn't take one for the ballteam when the recall was unavoidable.
2. The Democrats didn't put up the best candidate possible(I'm partial to Boxer). Remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil and is still an insult to the People. If a repuke is governor and something happens to either Boxer or Feinstein, guess which party is going to have one more Senate vote.

[patmacsf]

5. I'm a little confused ....

The best reason for getting rid of Davis and putting up a 'safe' Democrat is in case one of the U.S. Senators should become ill and have to leave the Senate or worse yet, die??

As I said earlier, heaven help us all!

[lcordero]

6. #2 is a worst case scenario

Which the California Democratic Party happens to be in right now.

I feel that Davis should have prevented the repukes from getting the recall even if it means stepping down. He knows fully well that the repukes want the recall because they intend to cheat. He didn't step down, and if I was a Californian, no he would not be worth 25 million dollars. If a repuke "wins" the election and becomes governor then if something should happen to Boxer or Feinstein there will be another repuke in the Senate. As far as I am concerned, Davis just became a repuke to me.

The Democratic Party looks like they are trying to give the lesser of two evils rather than a real alternative by leaving Davis as the only (D) on the ballot. THIS WILL TURN OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. Interesting post but false

Shelley was following the law. The illegal signature gatherers were included on one of the challenges and rejected by the CSC.

Bustamante also set the date late to give them as little time to campaign as possible.

The DNC could actually learn from California Dems who took every statewide office in November despite the close gubernatorial election.

This is NOT a USUAL scenario. Frankly, I have faith in the party. The California Republican party is a mess. The Dems rebounded from a hostile takeover a few years back and have strengthened themselves each succeeding election.

Find me ANY other state in the union where that has occurred in the last few years.

[patmacsf]

8. Not exactly ...

Sec. of State Shelley let the case stop at the trial court. It never reached the Supreme Court on the issue of the legality of the signature gathering. Hell, the Florida Sec of State hag went back and forth to the U.S. Supreme Court several times to get her candidate elected. We have a Secretary of State here in California who folds after the first stop.

If you were truly aware of California law, you would know that nothing in Bustamante's selection of date has anything to do with campaigning time. In fact the law is clear that campaigning can occur only in the 60 day period leading up to the recall vote. That's why Republicans are not out actually campaigning now ... they have to wait until Aug 9. But they sure do have a lot of time to get their campaign in order before then ... Thanks to Bustamante!

Heaven save us from the California Democrats! Send us some real Democrats who aren't afraid to win.

[ParanoidPat]

9. AMEN!

And this from an athiest! :evilgrin:
They don't call it the 'left coast' for nothing! :)