For those that follow 911....all tinfoil hats...LISTEN to this interview

[cthrumatrix]

Interview starts 5:20 into the show....YOU MUST LISTEN


7/30/03 "Meria With Michael Thomas on 9/11/01"
From his explosive story as a Congressional nominee in California to being
threatened by a U.S. Marshall in 9/11 Evidence Cover up, Michael has had a lot
of experiences in what happens to those who stand for truth. None of which have
shaken the oath he took years ago to "Protect the U.S. Constitution against
enemies both foreign and domestic". Mike says it's the "Domestic" terrorists he
worries about.
As an investigator with Tom Flocco, and researcher on 9/11, working with
Ellen Mariani (widow of 9/11), Mike has come across some pretty interesting stuff.
Such as at least 4 of the supposed hijackers still alive and kicking. When he
presented that information to Ellen's "then attorney" Mary Schiavo, she
didn't want to hear it. When he asked for a photo of Judge Hellerstein who is
handling the 9/11 case, he was accused of contempt. Something is definitely afoot
in this whole story and coverup of evidence on 9/11. Ellen has since been
"fired" by her attorney (replaced with a much better one that I recommended, by the
way) and the whole investigation of 9/11 surely looks like one big coverup.
Where are the black boxes on the flights? What about autoresponders? Who is
this Judge that has no background available or photo anywhere? Why do they hold
secret meetings before a session in court? Are we really "secure" when flying?
Another warning of attack issued, yet marshals are being let go of their jobs,
and no money put into first responders.

http://www.meria.net

[cthrumatrix]

1. This interview says that 4 hi-jackers are alive and they wanted to

bring them to the US to testify.

[cthrumatrix]

2. The guy is now threatened about bring information on 911....

This should be investigated now.

The guy is claiming he wants to bring at least 4 "hi-jackers" to the US so he can demonstrate that they could not have hi-jacked the planes.

[cthrumatrix]

3. CLICK ON MOST RECENT SHOW TO ACCESS THE INTERVIEW

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[whoYaCallinAlib]

4. Don't want to sound stupid, but NOBODY survived the hi-jackings.

EVERYBODY on those planes died. Did I miss something?

[Capn Sunshine]

7. You missed the theory

That the FBI lied about who the hijackers were , and the supposition that the 9-11 report censored pages talks about high ranking members of gov't giving aid and help to two of them.

[TomNickell]

17. High ranking members of the SAUDI gov't.

Not ours.

Explosive stuff. It will eventually leak.

[cthrumatrix]

8. the people they said h-jackers ...were not the hi-jackers

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[bpilgrim]

9. well there are some that were claimed to be onboard by our 'intel' who ARE

still alive.

it's also interesting how we have no routine survailance video of these other terrorist who we supposedly know were on the planes.

peace

[Jackpine Radical]

10. OK--so everyone on the planes died.

Some of the supposed hijackers did not die.

Anybody ever teach you about syllogisms?

[TomNickell]

19. Naah, you didn't miss much....

There are reports that some of the people identified as hijackers are actually still alive.

Ergo, the -real- hijackers may have used fake IDs (the scumbags!) and the FBI may have screwed up (I'm shocked. SHOCKED!).

This is locally presumed to be evidence of Dark Conspiracies. Leaving open the question why the Evil Conspirators would implicate 15 Saudis and 0 Iraqi's--given the evident intent of the Evil Conspirators to invade Iraq.

[bpilgrim]

5. interesting how they haven't explain how wt7 fell in it's foot print nor

the other towers... when's that 'official' story commin out?
who's working on that, the insurance companies?

peace

[TomNickell]

15. There is no explanation needed.....

The whole community of structural engineers is aware of the basic facts.

There is no mystery. There is no problem. There was no explosive.

The buildings fell down because big jet planes full of fuel flew into their sides.

Jeez!

[bpilgrim]

18. i understand... nothing to see here move along ----------------- VIDEO

http://globalfreepress.com/movs/911/wtc-7_collapse.mpg

thanks for clearing that up Tom :toast:

peace

[Nihil]

27. Check into WTC7 again please

> The whole community of structural engineers is aware of the basic facts.
>
> There is no mystery. There is no problem. There was no explosive.
>
> The buildings fell down because big jet planes full of fuel flew into their sides.

Damn, there was a *third* big jet plane full of fuel in NY?

It's a conspiracy! All of the footage, photos, reports that
we've been *allowed* to see have only shown the first two!
You know, the ones that hit the big sticky-up buildings (one each).
If all those structural engineers know that another big jet plane
full of (non-explosive) fuel hit the little, non-adjacent WTC7
then there's obviously no problem is there? No need to worry about
stand-down orders, about scrap exports, about recordings from the
firemen, about ...

Hell, but that means that the pilot must have been very well-trained
to hedge-hop close enough to get to WTC7 at ground level cos that
mysterious plane sure didn't show up on any of the other floors.
(Sorry, are we promoting conspiracy or denigrating it today?)

Mind you, it's a good job that someone managed to hit WTC7 after
all or there would have been a very cross ex-FBI chief coming after
the naughty people who made such a mess of WTC1 & 2.

No mystery? Yeah, right, whatever, ...

Nihil

[cthrumatrix]

6. talk about no "black boxes"....no hi-jackers on passenger lists...

Atta and all others were not on any video or intinerary's on 9/11.

[cthrumatrix]

11. No "discovery" allowed for 911....they could not even interview the

Airline personnel to understand if they took tickets from any of the "hi-jackers".

Now obviously, if they boarded w/o tickets that another issue.

[cthrumatrix]

12. One of the Air Traffic controllers said they CANNOT TALK... does that

that sound like a "normal hi-jacking"....what gives?

[cthrumatrix]

13. We've got to press for an investigation into 911...that goes through the

process of discovery.

* Where is the proof that the hi-jackers were on the planes...there is none.

* Who gave the the media the names of the hi-jackers and how did they get it in 24 hours ..if their names were not on the passnger list and everyone was "dust"?

* Let's talk to the airline employee's and controller's.

NOTHING ADDS UP.

[JohnyCanuck]

14. Hijackers used stolen ID's

Five of the hijackers were using stolen identities, and investigators are studying the possibility that the entire suicide squad consisted of impostors.

Details are emerging of the killers' humdrum final weeks in the US suburbs - joining gyms, eating pizzas and visiting an "adult video" store.

But the more the FBI learns about the dead men, the less likely it seems that the list of suspects derived from the passenger manifests of the aircraft can be accurate. Many of them seem to have adopted the personas of real-life commercial and military pilots.

In Saudi Arabia, five of the alleged hijackers have emerged, alive, innocent and astonished to see their names and photographs appearing on satellite television.

www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/londontimes092001.html


CNN reported that the men who hijacked the aircraft used phony IDs containing the names of real people living in Arab nations in the middle east.

Even the FBI says there is no evidence to link the above men to the 9/11 hijackings.

So, one fact is apparent. If those who hijacked the 9/11 airplanes were using stolen identities, then we don't know who they were or who they worked for. We can't. It's impossible.

www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers.html

[w4rma]

23. Seven/Eight of the alleged WTC Hijackers found alive

Seven of the WTC Hijackers found alive!
EIGHT of the alleged September 11th Hijackers are Alive

[TomNickell]

16. Here we go again!

Woo HOO!

Anybody for a good anti-gravity ray?

Actually Saddam Hussein was flying the planes.

That is why nobody can find him.

[bpilgrim]

20. Toms back with his pithy 2 sentence analysis - lol

:hi:

peace

[peacetalksforall]

21. Randomly

Nothing is heard from the Taliban. Are they all contrite and doing something else with their time...doing community service by teaching the young about world history, religions, and literature?

We're told Al Queda is alive and plotting. What if they aren't. What if what we're given is an allusion of imminent terror so that John can keep claiming national security to justify the secrecy.

If I were writing the script, I would have a big scene about who the best lawyers would be to crack this baby.

How many thousands of investigative investigators are employed by the U.S. media and what per rcent have lifted the phone or finger to find out about the put options?

Are these four accidents the first to be blacked out in the world of NTBA, FAA, FBI? What is the longest time between any aircraft incident and a subsequent interview with some member of the NTBA or 'expert' on a TV or radio or print interview?

How many minutes took place between the FBI's appearance to announce the 19 missile pilots names with photos compared to the hours or days it took to release the passenger list?

Why What When Who How much....wake up, sleepy little investigative reporters. Rouse your curiosity, full of fire lawyers.

[hang a left]

22. OMG

I have just got done reading from all the links that have been provided in this thread. I have this sick feeling. I feel so powerless, and I can't imagine how you can go up against these people. I read somewhere here in the last couple of days, someone said, "is it already too late" When you put all of everything that is going on in this country and the world together, I have this horrible feeling that it is too late as well. How can you stop it? What can we do. We can't be the only ones that know these things, what about the senators and the representatives. People in the cia the fbi, I feel so stupid and naive and scared, scared for my kids, my family, the world. What is this just one big fucking nightmare. Can someone please tell me what is the plan and who's on board.

[bpilgrim]

24. PNAC

some good info to start with here...
http://new.globalfreepress.com/index.pl?section=pnac

and here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID12/3021.html

but for hope read this...






It Seems to Me Howard Zinn

Humpty Dumpty Will Fall

http://www.progressive.org/aug03/zinn0803.html

<snip>
A bit of historical perspective reminds us that governments that seem to be in total control--of guns, of money, of the minds of the population--find that all their power is futile against the power of an aroused citizenry. The leaders awake one morning to see a million angry people in the streets of the capital city, and they begin packing their bags and calling for a helicopter. This is not a fantasy but history. It's the history of the Philippines, Indonesia, Russia, of East Germany, Poland, Hungary, Rumania, and other places where change looked hopeless and then it happened.

Throughout history, imperial powers, gloating over victories, become overextended and overconfident, as their citizens begin to get uneasy because their day-to-day fundamental needs are being sacrificed for military glory while their young are sent to die in wars. The uneasiness grows and grows, and the citizenry gather in resistance in larger and larger numbers, and one day the top-heavy empire falls over.

We don't expect Bush to scurry off in a helicopter. But he can lose the next election, just as he lost the last one, and this time perhaps not all the king's judges or all the king's men will be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

And there are already people around the country calling for his impeachment. Of course, we do not expect a craven Congress to impeach him. They were willing to impeach Nixon for breaking into a building. They will not impeach Bush for breaking into a country. They were willing to impeach Clinton because of his sexual shenanigans, but they will not impeach Bush for his pandering to the super-rich. Still, it is good to bring up impeachment, because the Constitution allows it for "high crimes and misdemeanors," and it is an opportunity to discuss the high crimes of this government.

The change in public opinion starts with a low-level discontent, at first vague, with no connection being made to the policies of the government. And then, as some connections become unmistakable, indignation rises, and people begin to speak out, to organize, to act.

Today, all over the country, there is a growing awareness of the shortage of teachers, of nurses, of medical care, of affordable housing, of cuts in human services in every state of the union. A teacher writes a letter to The Boston Globe: "I may be one of 600 Boston teachers who will be laid off as a result of budget shortfalls." And the teacher connects it to the billions spent for bombs "sending innocent Iraqi children to hospitals in Baghdad."

more...
http://www.progressive.org/aug03/zinn0803.html

hang in there, and pass the word :toast:

peace

[Bushfire]

25. There are plenty in the military that are pissed about 9 11.

They know Andrews AFB had the jets to intercept, but were given stand down orders or scrambled from other bases too far to intercept. The CIA took the fall for intelligence on 9 11, but they won't take the fall for Iraqi Niger uranium fiasco. Things are coming to a head very quick in the next month or two. Have a couple stiff drinks, and enjoy the fall of AWOL. It's going to happen. Even 4 Republican Senators want the latest 9 11 report to declassify a bunch of stuff. If that happens, the house of cards will collapse.

[bpilgrim]

26. kick

peace

[hang a left]

28. Thank You

I will spread the word. Hope there is enough of us, my husband won't even listen to me.

[tnlefty]

29. that sounds familiar

Give it time and just keep the info. spigot open. Eventually one has to begin to "see" it. I keep disks and file folders full of printed info. It's kinda hard to deny when there is a mountain of papers to read through.;-)

edit: typo

[gasperc]

30. and what about Anthrax man

I mean that mother fucker really caused alot shit in October!!!!!!!!