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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 07:14 PM Original message |
Why a Nationwide Strike is the Next Step |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nice dream, but the reality is that it will not happen here in the U.S. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. I wouldn't have thought something as large and persistent as the Occupy movement would happen until |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Much too much involved for that to be the next step, imo, |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. If you are both right (and I worry you might be) |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Oh and by the way |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. There are already 25 million people sitting down among the unemployed |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Okay so we are so uneccesary to the wealthy that not working won't touch them? |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Exactly. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. That said |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. Here is what would happen if an extended general strike really happened. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Essential workers will still work |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. How will so called essential workers get to work if the gas stations are closed? |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So keep the long haul fuel truckers and shipyard workers as essential |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Are gas station cashiers essential workers too? |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. How can you be sure? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Who decides who will and won't be allowed to work? |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Problems that need solutions for sure |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It is pretty easy to be sure. Just ask one simple question. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I don't see how that follows |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That's why general strikes fail. They are nothing more than a radical's dream. N/T |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Then you non-radicals better come up with some real solutions soon |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. You keep talking about 'cutting off food to the strikers' |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I think he doesn't know either. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. She does know |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 06:24 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. "grocery stores willing to take IOUs" |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. And even then the refineries would need to keep working. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. She does indeed |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. You clearly are not getting the "elevator take-away" here. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Not all grocery stores are run by corporations |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Many things 'are possible'; but they're not what the USA has |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I hope we'll have at least a Congress with marked differences from what we have now |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. What are you going to do about the red states and counties? |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Nothing can be done until support is widespread, I never tried to suggest otherwise |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. This should be essential reading! |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. I think the next step is Occupy Washington D.C. - across from White House or Capitol. nt |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. Perhaps instead of a general strike |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I haven't bought Exxon gas in almost a decade |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I didn't think of that... |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. On the other hand |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
26. It needs to include the population buying nothing, especially gas from |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. The naysayers are always poised to slam direct action. |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I think mass targeted action definitely works |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Yep. Led by Trotskyists, I might add |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. I've been posting here for 3 or 4 years now........ |
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