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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 05:36 AM
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An awful statistic. from CNN, "U.S has second worst newborn deathrate in modern world"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-11 05:42 AM by Stuart G
http://articles.cnn.com/2006-05-08/health/mothers.index_1_mortality-rate-death-rate-world-s-mothers?_s=PM:HEALTH



U.S. has second worst newborn death rate in modern world, report says

May 10, 2006|By Jeff Green CNN

An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world, according to a new report.

American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway, Save the Children researchers found.

Only Latvia, with six deaths per 1,000 live births, has a higher death rate for newborns than the United States, which is tied near the bottom of industrialized nations with Hungary, Malta, Poland and Slovakia with five deaths per 1,000 births.

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I saw this somewhere...Is it still true? I saw nothing current to refute this...
So, the Pukes do not want to provide healthcare for all. even the babies they so want to save ?
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 05:42 AM
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1. This is one of those "facts" that come from "science" so it doesn't matter anyway....
...only a liberal whackjob would argue differently.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 06:36 PM
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17. That's right
They probably used those bizarre numbers to figure it out like Einstein did
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 05:49 AM
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2. We're still number one
in spending

when are we going to start asking what exactly we're getting for all that money?
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 05:53 AM
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3. Were Saaaaaaafe from Terrorists!
at least, the ones who survive childhood, and the ones not dying from lack of medical care, and the ones not being killed/maimed in the middle east......
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 06:57 AM
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5. Number one in per capita spending by a wide margin, in fact
And lagging way behind in a number of other overall measures of the effectiveness of our health care. None of which ever penetrates to the people making our health care policy.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 06:28 AM
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4. republicans don't care about babies. Only fetuses. /nt
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 07:04 AM
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6. Republicans LOVE Freddy and Frieda Fetus!
Of course, when Freddy or Frieda are born, the Republicans don't give a rats ass about them. And if Freddy or Frieda starve to death, get sick, get beaten or abused, molested by priests, drop out of school, kill themselves because they can't take any more bullying...well, the Republicans shoot their mouths off saying, "It was God's Will..."

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Cairycat Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 07:06 AM
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7. I wonder if the US rate is so high,
it's because we work much harder at resuscitating younger babies than other places might. The forced birth people are probably working hard to push back the age of viability.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 12:28 PM
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13. There were a few reasons.
That was one of them: A lot more babies brought to full term without miscarriage that wouldn't have been "born" in some other countries; also a lot more preemies that are born and kept alive.

It's not that France or Sweden doesn't keep the preemies alive; it's that they have fewer. The mortality rate for full-term infants varies by ethnicity and geography, and the premature delivery rate also varies in principled ways.

One of the big mysteries that I haven't seen explained is why Latinos tend to have such low infant mortality--you have to get into fairly high white SES brackets and even higher African-American SES brackets to match the lower Latino SESs. It gives the lie to the claim that it's all about poverty; even Latino countries with high poverty rates still have remarkably low infant mortality rates. I assume there are answers, but I just haven't seen them.

It pays to note that the difference between #1 and #6 is a very, very small number and varies for all countries from year to year.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 07:13 AM
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8. The Reuplicans are less than half the country...
The other nations that do better have universal health care, and it is a crime to profit from providing such insurance. Here, politicians of both Parties put profit ahead of life. Obama declared that the Insurance Companies 'deserve to profit'. He did not say why they deserve to profit in the face of high infant mortality, but I'm sure he has a reason, he is a big Christian, anti equality and everything, so when he says profit is better than live babies, he speaks for Jesus, he says. Profit over people, because the companies deserve the profit.
Not just Republicans, sorry to say. Mandates and no public option. So far from what civilized nations do. And that came from a Democratic administration. As you know.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:56 AM
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9. Still roughly true
Here's the same "State of the World's Mothers" report for 2011. This time, they give figures for the under-5 mortality rate, rather than under 1 month (or 24 hours). http://www.savethechildren.org/atf/cf/%7B9def2ebe-10ae-432c-9bd0-df91d2eba74a%7D/SOWM2011_RANK_BY_TIER.PDF

Of Tier 1 countries, the US mortality rate of 8 is better than: Albania, Belarus, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Romania, Russia and Ukraine, and the same as Latvia. Finland, Greece, Japan, Iceland, Luxembourg, Norway, Slovenia and Sweden have the lowest - 3.

The lifetime risk of maternal death in the US is worse than all but Albania, Moldova and Russia.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 09:03 AM
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10. You mean we're not number one? :major sarcasm: nt
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 10:13 AM
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11. "modern world" in the title, "developed world" in the text.
Its a good article, but not as advertised.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 11:47 AM
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12. We are told repeatedly how fortunate we are to have the greatest health care
in the world. For profit health care system is perfect, we only need major Tort reform, then
those numbers will improve and we'll be back on top again.

Why don't more American's appreciate this reality? Why should anyone listen to what this guy has to say?

Charles MacCormack, president and CEO of Save the Children, said the report card "illustrates the direct line between the status of mothers and the status of their children."

"In countries where mothers do well, children do well," he said in a written statement accompanying the report. ( end)


Just in case.




:sarcasm:
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 12:48 PM
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14. I feel like this and maternal health go hand in hand

...which is something Amnesty has been focused on for a little more than a year now in their maternal mortality health campaign:

http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/campaigns/demand-dignity/maternal-health-is-a-human-right
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 02:52 PM
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15. USA USA USA!
More American exceptional ism
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:51 PM
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16. Not surprising. Health care in this country is piss poor unless you're rich.
And with repukes cutting prenatal care funding, research into maternal and fetal health, WIC funding, food stamp funding, etc. etc. etc., things are only going to get worse. The Party of Death strikes again.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 07:47 AM
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18. Sometimes I stand in awe of the greed and selfishness of Thugs.
They lack every decent strand of human compassion.
Greed, Greed, Hate, and More Hate. And,"

.......... "I ain't payen for no one else.."
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:55 AM
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19. The USA never settles for 2nd place...we'll make #1 yet I'm sure. nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:54 PM
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20. kick--babies need to start making bigger campaign contributions than insurance companiess
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 09:54 PM by yurbud
and set up megacorporations that can hire congressmen and senators as lobbyists, CEO's, and do-nothing board members after they leave office.

Until they can do that, they'll get more sympathy from a pack of starving dingos.
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