David Vitter, Newt Gingrich and GOP disgrace

[Jefferson23]

Tuesday, Jul 13, 2010 22:14 ET

* Something that Joan doesn't add that I wish she had, Spitzer had exposed the bums on Wall Street before the sex scandal, because
sex scandals are so much more harmful to our nation than Wall Street crime.


Greenwald's good question: Why is Eliot Spitzer described as "disgraced" when GOP johns and adulterers aren't? Video



On MSNBC's "The Ed Show" Tuesday, I got to ask GOP pundit Tony Blankley the question Glenn Greenwald posed Monday: Why is former N.Y. Gov. Eliot Spitzer routinely described as "disgraced," after admitting to patronizing prostitutes, while the word hasn't dogged Vitter, even though he confessed to the same thing? Gingrich has gotten off, too, Greenwald noted, though the former House speaker admitted to cheating on his first two wives (he had an affair with his third wife, a staffer, while married to his second wife, and also leading the charge for President Clinton's impeachment.) The video is below.

But first, Blankley and I got to talk about whether Gingrich is serious about running for president in 2012. Thankfully, just yesterday Justin Elliott joined Salon from TalkingPointsMemo.com, and he's already become invaluable, today helping me trip up former Gingrich press secretary Blankley on the question of how many times Gingrich has "seriously considered" running for president.

Elliott laid out the timeline early Tuesday: Although Gingrich says his current contemplation is "more serious" than before, the former House speaker has now said he was seriously considering a run for president multiple times in three different election cycles – and he hasn't yet run. He flirted with running in 2008, through much of 2007. He did the same in the second half of 1995, when Clinton looked vulnerable. That's where Elliott's reporting tripped Blankley up; Blankley insisted his boss thought about running briefly in June 1995 and quickly dropped the idea. But Elliott reported that in November, Gingrich was still telling the Boston Globe that he was thinking about a run, and that he'd sit down and discuss it with his wife Marianne. (They apparently decided against it.) Ironically, Gingrich has also said he'll make his decision in 2012 after talking to his third wife, Callista. Same story, different wives. (Blankley called me "sleazy" for mentioning Gingrich's three marriages; but I didn't even call him a "serial adulterer," as I have before.)

Then we moved to the subject of Louisiana Sen. David Vitter's disgusting embrace of Birther lawsuits and other efforts to "prove" Barack Obama isn't eligible to be president. That's when I got to raise Greenwald's question about why Vitter, and Gingrich, evade the "disgraced" label affixed permanently to Spitzer (Greenwald found it applied to Spitzer 394 times, but only four times to Vitter and five times to Gingrich, mainly by small blogs). I raised that question, but Blankley didn't even try to answer. On Vitter's Birtherism, Blankley (who deserves credit for shunning the movement) acknowledged Vitter's "pandering," but compared him to Democratic senators who he said endorsed similar shameful ideas about President Bush. When I asked him to name one senator who did that, he couldn't, so he shifted to claim "Democratic congressmen" had backed the idea Bush knew about 9/11 or even caused it. Again I asked him to name one Democratic congressman who backed that notion, and again, he couldn't.


in full and video: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/13/vitter_gingrich_gop_disgrace/index.html

[BlueDemKev]

1. And yet....

....Louisiana is all set to re-elect Vitter. :puke:

Charlie Melancon, his Democratic opponent, is very conservative himself and has a far cleaner record on character. Louisiana has NO excuse to send David Prostitute-Chaser Birther WingNut Vitter back to the Senate.

[Submariner]

2. Vitter's opponent should Google some Vitter caricatures for campaign ads

[Bitwit1234]

3. You can't help but not feel sorry for these states

No matter what the oil spill has done they insist on voting in the same republican trash and (via the old saying) expecting the results to be different. I got news for them, as long as trash like Vitter is their representation they will get nowhere. Because these guys only care about the lobbyist, big corporations and the money they can rake in from them. They could care less for the "little" people who vote for them. More's the pity. You'd think a lot of those southerns would clear their head and uncover their eyes.

[OHdem10]

4. Media in collusion with GOP. They fear Spitzer just might shine

You can never let a strong Democrat gain any notice.
Stomp'em dead. Only GOP are supposed to be strong
and good for TV. Keeping the GOP in charge is the
name of the game.

Smear Spitzer continuously.

[Jefferson23]

5. That is my take on it too. They completely ignore the fact that

Sptizer had written and was published in the NYT about the crimes perpetuated on Wall Street, yet, he is the one who
is always referred to as disgraced.

The bullshit never stops.

[JohnWxy]

6. "while the word hasn't dogged Vitter"?..easy, M$MInc serves up GOP disinformation. That's there job.