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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:21 PM
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China makes most faulty U.S. goods, but penalties are rare
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009

WASHINGTON — Chinese manufacturers made more than half of the goods that the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission recalled last year, but few of them paid any price for producing defective wares.

The long list of faulty products included Chinese-made highchairs whose seat backs failed, steam cleaners that burned their users, bikes whose front-wheel forks broke, saunas that overheated, illuminated exit signs that stopped working when commercial power failed, dune buggies whose seat belts broke on impact and coffee makers that overheated and started fires.

It also included loosely knotted soccer goal nets that entrapped and strangled a child and a toy chest whose poorly supported lid fell on a toddler's neck and killed him, according to CPSC filings.

The difficulty in recovering damages is a lesson that U.S. homeowners who are stuck with defective and possibly toxic Chinese drywall are likely to learn in the coming months. Builders installed the drywall in 2004-5 when the home building boom outstripped U.S. drywall supplies. The CPSC and the Environmental Protection Agency are investigating the consequences.

While everyone involved is likely to be sued — installers, contractors, distributors, importers and Chinese manufacturers — the last are the hardest to reach by far.

For starters, suing a Chinese company in a Chinese court isn't a good idea for most American plaintiffs, said Michael Lyle, a seasoned international lawyer. "It's like suing Michael Jordan in Chicago."

Yet many Chinese manufacturers also evade trial in the U.S. simply by persuading judges that their companies had no substantial business presence in the states in which they've been sued. That's not hard for Chinese manufacturers, which typically rely on independent importers to sell to the American market.

A Senate Judiciary subcommittee is considering measures to make that defense — which has been invoked in scores of product liability suits — more difficult. For now, however, it's so effective that many U.S. tort lawyers won't take cases against Chinese products unless there are American co-defendants. Further, if the U.S. defendants are forced to pay up, the likelihood of their successfully suing the Chinese manufacturers is as distant as the customers'.

Lyle — the managing partner of the Washington office of the New York firm Weil, Gotshal & Manges — and other international lawyers say the larger problem is that the growth of globalized trade has outrun the legal systems that were created to check its excesses.

"It's in the nature of economic development that systems of remedy develop out of the need to fix what's gone wrong, so they develop more slowly," said Charles Toy, the manager of a Washington-based international private-equity fund who once practiced law in Hong Kong and Beijing.

That's no comfort to American defendants who must accept court judgments that Chinese manufacturers can flout.

More: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/70986.html

This is one of those "no shit" headlines.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:28 PM
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1. Chinese manufacturing sucks
by and large.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:31 PM
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2. It's worse than you think it is.
I know a man who imports canned goods from China. When the products arrive in this country, their labels are removed (which show their country of origin) and new labels are put on. And not all these "new" canned goods are generic no-name brands. Your canned vegetables may not even be from agribusiness in this country.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:19 PM
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5. I find that to be quite disturbing. n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:08 PM
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10. it's beyond disturbing
it's criminal
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:31 PM
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3. I assume you're familiar with Economy In Crisis.org?
http://www.economyincrisis.org/content/faq

If not you'll love it. Great information to spread far and wide on the perils of "free trade".
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:23 PM
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8. Interesting link....
Thanks for posting. :)
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:53 PM
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4. Fair play -- U.S. sells China faulty bonds & securities.
I'd say we're getting the better deal in the long run.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:31 PM
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6. You get what you pay for
Pay shitty wages, get shitty products.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:22 PM
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7. A long time ago "made in china" meant crap.

We forgot and now we are all covered in it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:33 PM
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13. It still means crap
It's just that there's no alternative. I remember when stores sold cheap chinese crap. Most people learned their lesson and didn't buy the stuff.

Now, you couldn't find a product made in North America if your life depended on it.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:25 PM
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9. "Made in China" is the new "Made in Japan."
maybe I'm revealing my age with that comment
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:16 PM
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12. You must be at least as old as me
:D
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:36 PM
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14. The ironic thing is that Japanese have always demanded the best quality for themselves
Their own shoddy export goods would be turned away at their own ports.

They made the inferior stuff for export only, usually on contract from some sleazy operator in America.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:16 PM
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11. We need to pass laws that make them have to comply with our standards
Then thier products won't seem as cheap after they have to redesign them and hire lawyers & pay large judgments against them.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:23 PM
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17. Only problem is our standards have gotten so low
people generally have accepted this shoddy crap. I see women of every age wearing these horrible skin tight paper thin clothes which show every little bump and ripple... not to mention the major bulges and rolls. You can no longer find anything in a department store that isnt shoddy disposable made in China garbage. People don't seem to mind.

I shop at the thrift stores where I can still find quality made in Canada or US, its getting harder to find there too.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:33 AM
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15. Kick n/t
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quidam56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:47 AM
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16. Wise County, Virginia coal powers The Empire of China,
http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=138

Our schools are so old and outdated they can't even power up the latest technology kids in Appalachia deserve to compete on a global scale. Our mountains are being decapitated, the trade off is so we can go to walmart and buy cheap toxic crap. It's pure insanity.
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