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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:46 AM
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Some Israelis Insulted By Obama Picture
Source: CBS



Israeli TV newscasters Tuesday night interpreted a photo taken Monday in the Oval Office of President Obama talking on the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as an "insult" to Israel.

They saw the incident as somewhat akin to an incident last year, when the Iraqi reporter threw a shoe at President Bush in Baghdad.

It is considered an insult in the Arab world to show the sole of your shoe to someone. It is not a Jewish custom necessarily, but Israel feels enough a part of the Middle East after 60 years to be insulted too.

Was there a subliminal message intended from the White House to Netanyahu in Jerusalem, who is publicly resisting attempts by Mr. Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to force Israel to stop any kind of settlement activity in occupied territories once and forever?

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/09/world/worldwatch/entry5076128.shtml
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:48 AM
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1. Nice try
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 10:48 AM by rocktivity
especially since Obama is allegedly a Muslim

:boring:
rocknation
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indio55555 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:13 PM
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60. See this.
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MrBig Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:47 PM
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62. What does this video have to do with anything???
I bet you I can find links to drunken idiots who say stupid things on any subject. Oh, but these people represent all of Israel, right? Stupid.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:48 AM
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2. Or did Obama's feet hurt?
That's a stretch, seeing as he was only talking over the phone.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:49 AM
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3. who even took that picture and is Obama really talking to Netanyahu
on the phone.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:08 PM
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33. The official White House photographer and that's how the photo's labeled on the WH website. . .
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:49 AM
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4. I wonder just how many Israelis were pissed off.
Were there more than two?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:50 AM
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5. lame...I wonder if other countries report every disgruntled group of ours in the news.
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 10:56 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
"Some Americans Angry at the French for Hating Freedom!"
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:51 AM
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They're lucky he's not showing them his a$$
Because they really need to kiss it!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:51 AM
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6. Israelis feel like Arabs now?
Is black white and day is night?
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:11 AM
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13. LOL!
That was great! Dana ; )
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:41 AM
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22. Arafat's great success was to remake Israel in his image.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:55 AM
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7. I lived in Israel a number of years ago, and of course I
can tell you that the Israelis are all so high class!!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:56 AM
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8. Really? Can Howard Arenstein please provide some names and facts?
From 1974-1981, he lived in Israel, working as a reporter for the Jerusalem Post newspaper and Israel Radio. In 1978, Arenstein was hired by United Press International as the wire service’s Jerusalem Bureau Chief and as an editor on the UPI foreign desk in New York and Washington.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:04 AM
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:47 AM
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26. LOL... a fake Texan at that
Welcome to DU!

:hi:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:45 PM
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44. 'Force' them? How?
You sound just as paranoid in your own way as the people in the article in theirs!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:29 PM
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47. I caught that also and agree. nt
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:14 PM
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56. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:25 PM
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67. you're toasting the "for everything they control" (e.g. Israel) person?
:eyes:
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:37 PM
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68. See your PM! nt.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:24 PM
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66. "For everything they control"
and

"They can control the US media..."

:banghead: :eyes:

i don't know who you are but i don't think you're going to be around here very long.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:52 PM
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71. Except that Bush did everything the Israelis wanted, except invade Iran.
And don't think he wasn't trying. What would they need to 'handle'?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:06 AM
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10. Then they don't have to accept any aid from the US any more. Easy. nt
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:11 AM
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14. Really...isn't it tiresome that we fund their national healthcare plan? nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:39 AM
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21. Wow. Ain't nothin' about them you like.
Wonder why.
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:44 AM
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24. better to imply antisemitism
than to realize the funds are best used on our own health care system
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:15 PM
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57. Belated Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:57 AM
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29. Wow...that was probably one of the first posts I ever made
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:14 PM by Lucky Luciano
regarding Israel and now I hate them completely?!

Besides my mother is Jewish...which makes me (drumroll please.......).

Jewish!

Though I say half Jewish and half Irish out of respect for my paternal side as well.


The only point was that it was odd that we effectively finance (since money is fungible) their socialized healthcare system when we do not even have one.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:07 AM
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11. RW Israelis will be insulted by whatever Obama does just like the crazy RW'ers here.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:16 AM
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15. bingo! that is the real bottom line - the RW in Israel is trying to stir things up...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:55 PM
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54. just as US RWers get insulted when criticizing American policy
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 02:57 PM by fascisthunter
they are all extremist nutcases
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:08 AM
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12. B. F. D.
Some "civilizations" simply need to grow a skin and get over shit.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:48 AM
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27. "grow a skin".
What is that supposed to mean?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:16 PM
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36. I think he means "grow SOME skin"
meaning Israel is thin-skinned and doesn't like to be insulted.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:22 PM
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38. OK. Thanks for bringing this into perspective.
I'm sure that you know where I was going with that. ;-)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:22 PM
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39. Of course
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:33 PM
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48. What you said.
Thanks. My terminology isn't always perfect.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:22 AM
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:28 AM
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17. Slow News Day
Sometimes a Pen is Just a Pen...
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:35 AM
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18. The ridiculous has become standard
in RW rhetoric. Sheesh!

Where on earth is the "liberal" media that we hear so much about?

:shrug:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:36 AM
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19. Whatever
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:38 AM
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20. Wow, what a stretch. This is faux outrage if I ever saw it. n/t
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:41 AM
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23. i couldn't yawn louder.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:44 AM
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25. Another great article from the Onion!
:rofl:

Oh waitaminute...

:shrug:

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:50 AM
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28. But they're strangely not offended
When Israeli troops funnel Arab students into a waiting mob of Jewish toughs to get beat up on their way home from school.

I have a friend with Christian Peacemaker Teams, and one of their tasks is escorting Arab students home from school. One afternoon, all the exits from the schoolyard were cut off by young Israeli soldiers, leaving the only egress through a gate where a bunch of bullies were waiting to beat the snot out of the Arab students as they departed. My friend tried to go out another gate, but was blocked by a soldier. He tried to reason with the soldier, who stood firm and told him that the only way for the students to leave was by the gate where the bullies were waiting. "Security" reasons, doncha know.

In the middle of the conversation, my friend's cell phone rang and he answered it. After a moment he held the cell phone out to the soldier and said, "It's your mother; she wants to know what you're doing." The young soldier hesitated for just a second before realizing that there's no way his mother would be on the other end of the line, but that's all it took. As my friend finished the call, the soldier began edging out of the way, and about 30 seconds later left enough room for my friend and the students to slip out the side gate and avoid the bullies.

I wonder how many of the unnamed newscasters in this CBS story would be offended by the use of their troops in aiding and abetting a bunch of bullies?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:06 PM
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:04 PM
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30. Who really cares?? Nobody!
The "insulted israelis" are so similar to the "troop loving republicans" of this ass back wards country.

I honestly don't give a shit if they are insulted. It's a phony crock in the first place. Being an Arab custom, since when do the israelis take on the customs of the Arabs, except to be insulted???

They can eat shit and bark at the moon. I'm sick of these morons grasping at any distraction to divert from their own transgressions. F*CK THEM ALL!!
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:05 PM
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31. If those are his shoes, why aren't his legs attached to his feet?
Look at the angle of his torso. Can someone contort like that?

Are those shoes even the same size?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:47 PM
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51. i agree, it looks like a photo shop
either that or Obama has some swively hips.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:08 PM
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34. Good grief
If the Israeli's are insulted by this utter nonsense; That ridiculous and feigned perception is an insult to the worlds intelligence.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:14 PM
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35. LOL, how fucking desperate can anyone be!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:17 PM
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37. BTW I doubt Israelis give a flying fig
how Obama sits when he's talking on the phone. It's a fake RW outrage.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:33 PM
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43. I think you are absolutely right!
It's a few right-wingers, who don't like Obama anyway, and will find any excuse to complain about him.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:27 PM
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40. the president is not raising his middle finger to them
those news casters should understand the western cultures first
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:29 PM
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41. "Some Isrealis" are morons
This proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that morons abound in the world.

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Oh wait, we already knew that.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:32 PM
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42. Some people will find any excuse to be insulted
This is ridiculous. First of all, since when did people's shoes get transmitted over the phone? Secondly, even if it is an Arab insult, neither Obama nor Netanyahu is an Arab. I only wish Nutty and his supporters would find some OTHER things that they have in common with the Arabs!
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:06 PM
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45. Most extremists get insulted by just about anything .
They one set of rules for themselves, and another set for everybody else.
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ChiGal Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:14 PM
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46. That's ridiculous
Plenty of past presidents have been photographed with their feet up on the desk.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:21 PM
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58. Belated Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:36 PM
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49. Is that gum on his left shoe?
That must mean something insulting to someone in the world...North Korea, maybe?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:39 PM
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50. Were they tied to a chair and forced to look at it?
as a woman, Hustler magazine offends me. I don't buy or look at it. Problem solved.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:49 PM
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52. and this nonstory is news? someone is *REALLY* trying to stretch here....
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:51 PM by Blue_Tires
of course Howard Arenstein doesn't quote the first israeli (or anyone else, for that matter) in the story, so i guess it is Arenstein himself who is putting words in the mouth of an entire nation...
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:39 PM
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53. If he thinks that's an insult...
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 02:40 PM by ProudDad
I have a one-finger salute for Bibi...
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:05 PM
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55. Emphasis on "some"
How would you like it if all of us were held responsible for the success that the Limpdicd has? or Fox? (Success in terms of number of dittoheads)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:22 PM
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59. "It is not a Jewish custom necessarily, but Israel feels enough a part of the Middle East..."
:eyes:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:15 PM
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61. Why? Because he's not kneeling to service Israel's rightwing government like past presidents?
Fuck the Israeli government. The Israeli people deserve better leaders.

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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:54 PM
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63. Cry more, please.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:02 PM
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64. I'm insulted by their insultedness, so what?
What a bunch or whiney morons.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:09 PM
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65. No surprise. Right wingers are assholes no matter what country they're from. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:44 PM
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69. Who cares? His feet, his desk, & he wasn't in Israel at the time.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:42 PM
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70. They're really reaching.
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