Larry Johnson:Preparing the Environment for the Next War

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I do not know whether or not the Bush Administration will attack Iran in the next six months as my friend and former CIA colleague, Bob Baer, predicted in a recent Time magazine interview. But one thing is certain, the Bush Administration continues to bombard the American public with a comprehensive and dishonest information warfare operation, known in polite circles as propaganda, and is busy trying to build political support to stay in Iraq and to justify a new war with Iran.

To put this into the proper context you must first read (or perhaps reread) James Bamford’s masterful piece in Rolling Stone from November 2005, The Man Who Sold the War. It is a profile of John Rendon and the role he has played in helping sell a variety of wars to the American public. Bamford tells how fabrications from an Iraqi defector were used to fabricate a case for war:

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Next, you should check out the latest effort to link the war on terrorism with the war on Iraq. Rendon does not appear to be directly involved but we should look into this. Steve Watson, at Info Wars, has an excellent piece on this that is also worth your time. Watson notes:

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If you think for a minute that the campaign to keep us in Iraq is not linked to the campaign to justify a war with Iran then you have not learned anything from the last five years. This use of propaganda against the American people must be exposed and stopped.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/08/25/preparing-the-environment-for-the-next-war/

[peacetalksforall]

1. Absolutely, right on.

"If you think for a minute that the campaign to keep us in Iraq is not linked to the campaign to justify a war with Iran then you have not learned anything from the last five years. This use of propaganda against the American people must be exposed and stopped."

Thanks to all to tell the truth, even it the words are blunt and hurt.

[peacetalksforall]

2. This is probably the saddest day in seven years

More Democrats than we knew or suspected are really Republicans and are proceeding with the death of Iranians. It is atrocious to deal with the death, maiming, massacres, and destruction that has already been ordered and gone down - it's just horrible to know that Dems are in on the future Iran bombing and are manipulating a pretense.

There really isn't two parties. We've been fooled by our own. All those people who told me there was no difference between the two for the last thirty years were right. We are such suckers.

And we don't even have any European countries interceding for peace - because they want the war also.

The knowledge and the truth are painful.

[Middle finga]

3. If our military is ordered to attack Iran, do we continue to support

the troops and their mission or should we look at them as tools of the neocons agenda and criticize them accordingly, I just want to make sure I'm on the right side of the issue when the time comes, Thanks.

[reprobate]

4. What a foolish, stupid questionl. Are you here as an agent provocateur?

Of course we support the troops. They are us. They have no choice. They follow their orders or go to prison, or are shot.

The criticism must go to the leadership. And I'm talking about the leadership of both the administration and the congress. Impeachment is the only way to stop this evil. Call and write your congressmen and tell them to work to save the country by evicting the cabal.

If I was too critical to your question it's because a question like that has been used by the repug frauds here to provoke responses that they use to criticize us with.

[Middle finga]

7. What the hell! am I living in a fascist military worshiping country here

Joseph Goebell couldn't have done a better job of brainwashing a nation.

[reprobate]

10. Calm down. You must realize that the troops in danger in Iraq and Afghaninstan

are a completely separate class from the fascist cabal that has taken control of our nation.

Funny you should mention old Joe Goebbels. Our government for the last six years has been running on his principles. In fact, we have been contracting out to private firms most of our intel for years now. Although to call it intel is wrong. What it IS is propaganda. Susan Miller of the times got her first story on Saddam and WMD from a plant by a guy by the name of Renton, a sub-contractor for the CIA. It was completely fabricated.

Until we can remove the cabal and the evil that has implanted itself we stand little chance of returning to a democracy. Funny, I never used to use the word 'evil' before. It was a concept that I just disagreed with. There were people that did bad things, but 'evil' didn't enter the discussion. I was wrong.

[Middle finga]

12. I understand your point, thanks

I'm just so angry about what we are doing in Iraq, I find my self critical of all responsible parties but I would never include the rank and file of the military in my criticism.

[peacetalksforall]

6. Troops = our kids. Yes, we support our kids. Military brass - I stopped

supporting the Rumsfeld, Pace, war toy and game boys a long ago time ago.

They betrayed us. They were to defend us, not participate with politicians and corporations and then invade, pillage, cheat, lie, torment, torture, and speak clear words in hearings that say the brass are not there to defend, but kill and plunder.

The new American military purpose is a disgrace to humanity. There is no defense about it - being our defenders morphed into a hideous and unreligious lie.

This country is a living lie and our troops, our kids, are pawns that the brass would like to replace with mercenaries, but find it difficult because of the pretense and because it's hard work finding and taking money to pay the mercenaries while putting our kids out there as if this was a real war while they use their Pentagon brain power to find ways to cut the troops benefits and leave some of our them in poverty and some with interrupted or destroyed careers to say nothing of their limbs, organs, immune systems, mental health, and sleep - and torturing and deporting others.

Ah yes, troops are supported, brass not. There is a disttinction.

Hope I answered your question.

[KoKo]

5. Yes....

We had such high hopes. Now we know.

When our liberal Congressperson here in NC met with protestors wanting to Impeach...he told them, "it's off the table there's too much we have to do." Which is what Nancy keeps saying. They will not impeach..they will just nip around the edges and negotiate some leavings like at Justice. I think they feel it's better to "gentlemanly" do a hand shake and let folks resign figuring that this will hamstring Bush/Cheney. It's hard not to believe that this means that they will go along with bombing Iran...because if Bush does it ..that means that they think a Dem President won't have to do it to show "strength" right after inauguration.

If you remember...every President always does a military action somewhere when they come in. Grenada (to save the US medical students), Haiti, several times (to supposedly stop communism) and Libya and to many other places ...I can't remember them all.

Plan is to bomb Iran then withdraw some Iraq troops. They will say the war is winding down and stay there like we did in Vietnam for another decade. The only thing that can stop both parties is if the economy implodes....but then they already are working with Wall St. to allow China and the Saudi's to invest in our roads and companies. So...it's all taken care of...

[Gregorian]

8. The Drug War was my tip-off. I knew right then what people are now discovering.

It's not off topic. Nobody spoke up because either they were too scared, or because it didn't concern them. And it's no different now. But this time instead of knocks on doors at 3am by a squad of government DEA hitmen, it's NSA and freedom of speech, and the love of petroleum. A country of automotive addicts. From Just Say No, to Just Take The Oil.

And I'll add that even if we don't attack Iran, it's the willingness to entertain the thought that is indicative of the evil that has crept into people's hearts.

Edit- I should say it's indicative of the hold that this automotive addiction has on us.

1000 barrels of oil per second. That is what the people of planet earth are burning. And we're willing to kill in order to keep our addiction. Our comfortable lifestyles.

[glitch]

9. Old-timer :) Everything Reagan did was either proto-fascist or outright fascist. nt

[Gregorian]

11. Right on. :)