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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:59 AM
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Fundamentalist Christian Militancy on the Rise?
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 10:01 AM by jokerman2004
The phenomenon of Spiritual Warfare -- the war against against Satan and the demonic has gone into high gear in Amerikaland.

In this article, Gerald Ediger argues that public and even corporate sponsored "warfare" against Satan and the enemies of Christ has always been an integral part of the Christian ethos.

Strategic-Level Spiritual Warfare in Historical Retrospect
by Gerald Ediger

http://www.directionjournal.org/article/?1053

This is a dangerous aspect of Christianity, because in a time of low intensity mass hysteria like the one in which we currently live, The Christian soldiers are coming forward to claim political ground for the imminent arrival of Christ's order on earth. And if the heathen brown people don't don't swallow it like the bitter medicine that conquest ideology always is, at least Amerikaland is redefining herself as the capital of God's empire on earth.

Hey! We don't need no stinkin' constitution!

Hell, Faux news is paving the way to convince these political hillbillies that Amerikan public culture belongs to them!
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:11 AM
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1. Christian Militanism
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 10:22 AM by Homer12
Was full-blown during the crusades, and has been waiting in the wings to make a revival and comeback.

Gw with his fanatical ferver will make it happen.

It's no different than militant islam, They wanted (Bushco that is), to have a radical militiant christian revival after 9/11.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:22 AM
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3. They dont see the irony.....
Ok fundamentalists.....your thoughts and behavior is different from the terrorists how?
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:26 AM
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4. They don't see the irony, becuase God....
...has justified their actions.

Then you mention that the God they are talking about is the same god that Islam as a whole worships.

Then they say that it is not the same god, even though Islam uses the Old Testmant and other pre-Koranic writings as the bedrock of it's religion just like christianity has.

No matter what you do, Fundamentalist christians are brainwashed.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:21 AM
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2. Agreed
And if the rising tide of vociferous Christian militancy that I'm starting to notice is any indication, it will feed Bushco's engine something fierce.

I expect to see more "Christians" preemptively defending themselves and their persecuted point of view -- coming to websites and news channel near you!

Let's bring back the Crusades!
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:35 AM
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5. Low opinions of evangelicals
Few Outside Christianity Have Positive View of Evangelicals
A new survey shows that adults with no connection to the Christian faith have low opinions of evangelicals. The researcher who conducted the study believes that may be one reason why churches are not growing.

The Barna survey asked respondents how they felt about evangelicals, born-again Christians, ministers, and other types of people. According to the survey, evangelicals came in tenth out of eleven, trailing lesbians and lawyers but beating out prostitutes.

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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:46 AM
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6. I have a very strong faith...thats not in question...
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 10:53 AM by Cannikin
My problem is the corrupt church. And with those who fear what they dont understand and use God as a shield to justify there hostility.
The church doesnt do Gods work anymore. They do intollerant man's work. And smart people see that and abandon the church. Only the uninformed and easily led people believe the rhetoric. The church equivalent of the 'ditto head'. The article backs up my opinion:

"The survey also found the more highly educated a person without a Christian connection is, the less likely he or she is to have a positive impression of Christians."


And, as a flamin' mo, I loved this part:

"The Barna survey asked respondents how they felt about evangelicals, born-again Christians, ministers, and other types of people. According to the survey, evangelicals came in tenth out of eleven, trailing lesbians and lawyers but beating out prostitutes"
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:28 AM
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7. What you are reporting is
data that will be useful to the "Christians" who are currently trying to paint their position as being persecuted. As we all know from watching TV, the end times can't happen unless the Christians get persecuted for their faith somewhere.

If most educated adults consider preachers and evangelicals as pandering to cows, then registered believers have a rational for some serious coming end-times persecution potential! That must get them all tweaked and righteous. Expect the fear saturated end-timers to become more aggressive this year. They need Bush to bring about their Tribulation and rapture.

Rant:
1. I'm outraged at this so called "Christian" movement. I was raised a Catholic and have read on religion all my life, seeking a spirituality that transcended politics and human culture. The Christian Right is a political movement with religious features and parameters.

2. Their spiritual war on all fronts is to change the definitions of words and concepts, and control the direction of public discourse. All the end-timers are allowed to see is the political promise of their coming ascendancy. Like all apocalyptic cults in the past, their prophesies will not unfold, and they will find themselves pushed away from the trough. In the end, they'll end up disenfranchised political pawns -- one more generation of mad Christian eschatology swept under the historical rug.

3. These days apparently, political religionists are defining Christianity for us. Note also that they are defining the adjectives Satanic, Demonic, and evil as well.

Be warned.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:01 PM
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8. prostitutes given a bad rap
in that survey...

I've said it over and over again, but I was raised as a (white--this is an imp. distinction, unfortunately) southern baptist, among educated people, but when it comes to bible literalism, they are blind.

my barometer for any social issue to look at where the white southern baptist's stand. If you take the opposite tack, you will surely be on the just side of history, since they have consistently been on the wrong side.

...just kidding...sort of...

the scary thing is that DeLay and so many other repukes who side with militant Christianity are in power in the puke party, along with their like-minded Christians like Scalia (tho Southern Baptists would say he's 'misguided' and will have to become a protestant to really be saved, btw).

again, Scalia is on record as being an opponent of Enlightenment...which is the basis for our Constitution..the philosophical foundation of every bit of our democracy as begun by the founders...

I don't understand why anyone with that attitude toward America is allowed to serve in office, frankly.

If the Christians want to be persecuted, fine...I'd say that any Christian who tries to claim the U.S. is a Christian nation should be denied the privledge of running for office, because they're lying about the very foundations of our govt.

But as Ralph Reed has said, they are keeping their real goals under the radar, gaining power, and then we'll see the full force of the Tali-born-agains.

Ashcroft is warming up the fires to burn our Constitution as we speak...



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