Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What Should Congressional Democrats Do, When the Bush Administration Stonewalls Their Efforts To Und

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Son Of Spy Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 04:34 PM
Original message
What Should Congressional Democrats Do, When the Bush Administration Stonewalls Their Efforts To Und
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 04:42 PM by Son Of Spy
What Should Congressional Democrats Do, When the Bush Administration Stonewalls Their Efforts To Undertake Oversight?: By John Dean Pt. 2 of 3

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20061229.html



(Here's Part 1)
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20061201.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 08:10 AM
Response to Original message
1. Does Nancy Pelosi have the WILL to bring Bush to heel?
In this extraordinary article, John Dean lays out the tools available to this Demo controlled Congress
to force the Executive Branch into compliance.
for further reading, refer to link in the OP..


"The Bush Administration has been reluctant to claim "executive privilege" - given the bad name Nixon gave the use of the privilege. Accordingly, the Administration has on several occasions claimed a "deliberative privilege" - even though no such privilege exists, and it is merely another name for executive privilege.

Often, Congress folds when the president invokes executive privilege, for there is no real judicial remedy (as noted above, courts tend to punt, citing the "political question" doctrine). However, a determined Congress - or committee thereof - can prevail over a recalcitrant president (or vice president) if its members are determined and persistent.

Thus, if the 110th Congress, controlled by the Democrats, fails to get the information it needs -- and the public wants -- about the workings of the Bush/Cheney presidency, it will not be because it does not have the tools with which to obtain that information. Rather, it will be because it lacks the will to use those tools."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Forcing Executive Compliance with Congressional Information Requests
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 08:16 AM by Tellurian
excerpt from the OP:

"When Congress plays hardball, it gets the information it wants from the president. The Congressional Reference Service (CRS) has prepared a complete manual on oversight, which they updated recently. In the manual, CRS has laid out all Congress needs to know to crack any stonewall Bush and Cheney may erect to block their oversight efforts.

Lou Fisher, one of the authors of the CRS manual, catalogued a number of the methods available to Congress in his essay:

"Congressional Access To Information: Using Legislative Will And Leverage." Drawing on historical examples, Fisher shows that Congress has a host of tools, of various size and shape and depending on the situation, to "extract information from the President."

Together, the manual, the update, and Fisher's excellent article provide an adept guide to everything Congress needs to exercise meaningful oversight as to the Bush Administration - everything, that is except the intestinal fortitude required for winning this staring contest, without blinking."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Bipartisan Civility IS NOT THE ISSUE !!
What Americans want and NEED from a Democratic Congress is.. a FULL restoration of the America we once inhabited.

This IS what Americans voted for and expect nothing less!!!

Our Priorities are:

SAVING THE PLANET, ENDING THE IRAQ WAR, AID FOR KATRINA VICTIMS, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION,
RESTORATION OF THE CONSTITUTION... for openers. WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN BI-PARTISANSHIP WITH REPUBLICANS!!!


(for obvious reasons..)


Intro from Part I:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20061201.html

Bipartisan civility?

"For that reason, Democrats say that, when they take charge of the new 110th Congress in January, they plan to end the excessive partisanship, with its accompanying paralysis, that has characterized Republican rule..

But ending partisanship, clearly, was not the only message voters sought to send on November 7. Many Democrats ran, and won, on the claim that the Bush Administration was operating unchecked by Congress; that Congressional Republicans refused to exercise oversight of the administration. Early in the campaign, in March 2006, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), along with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), released a joint report to provide Democratic candidates with information showing that the Republican Congress had failed to fulfill its oversight responsibilities. With solid justification, the report labeled Republicans a mere "rubber stamp" for the Bush/Cheney White House, and this theme resonated through many House and Senate races. It was a significant factor in many Democrats' winning their races."

my words:

Ms. Pelosi, a dignified response to the forthcoming Republican outcry would be:

"This DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS is here to repair the damage done by YOUR Republican controlled Congress.
The VOTERS have spoken! We are here to carry out the wishes of the American People."


...rinse and repeat. (over and over again, until they getit!)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. ***

:dem:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
4. When they overreach, you must impeach.
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 10:50 AM by bemildred
The public interest in accountability comes before all other petty political concerns.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Thanks, bemildred, for lighting a candle..
John Dean has laid out a Foundation for the newly elected Congressional Democrats.

I'm not sure if the information provided has taken into account, the changes made to the Constitution by Bush, as noted here by Sterling Newberry:

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/sep/29/the...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. A fascinating piece.
Not entirely convincing, he seems overfond of wandering around in his own abstractions, but I thank you for pointing it out, he also offers an interesting point of view, and some of his arguments I do agree with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. a moderate Republican..
I've had an affinity for John Dean since he was sequestered at my home during the WaterGate Trial.
He and his wife were one(sic) of many witnesses my family housed for safe keeping until their testimony
was given at Trial.

If we discard Dean's abstracts down to strategic bare bones. Pelosi has to bring the fight to the Republican majority.

If she falters but for an instant, I fear, we will again be hostages to spineless Democratic demagoguery,
lingering indefinitely in the doldrums of hopelessness and despair.

Time is of the essence. We cannot fail this time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 24th 2014, 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC