Some find Jeanine Garafolo's rhetoric too simplistic (Salon)

[Eric J in MN]

From
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2003/12/05/tell_us/index.html
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As for the so-called red states that voted for Bush, well, says Garofalo, dressed in jeans and a black T-shirt, "I call them the 'pee-on-me states.'" The level of self-loathing required to vote for George W. Bush, she says, calls for a drastic solution. "We should hire a dominatrix -- just to get it over with."

The audience response, though, is decidedly mixed. An enthusiastic shout of "he is crazy" comes from the front, but then I spot a few people standing up to leave. A tall woman with red hair, standing near the exit, tells me that she's had enough musical activism for the night.

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1. That was a great article.....but I'm sure many on here...

Will complain about it and say that all we need is to just complain and insult and people will somehow have their eyes opened by the left.

I fear we are in the exact same position the republicans were in during Clinton's term. People don't want to be told that they are idiots for not hating someone or have just hating that person be their sole reason for doing or not doing something.

I love Janeane Garafalo and all the performers mentioned. But some of the other people made some good points as well.

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. Okay, let me see if I'm understanding this double-standard.

We're suppose to get bothered because some numb-nuts get up and leave while Janine is making some rather mild comments about the red states? Why, exactly, should this bother us when the right-wing media spews racist themes every single day of the year on every possible media they monopolize?

If there is some rule that says that we're suppose to give right-wingers more speech rights than we're entitled to ourselves, well, go piss up a rope.

Janine, You go girl! I think you're great!

[Eric J in MN]

3. I haven't seen her give a speech recently, but the article

The article implies that she assumes the audience is anti-Bush instead of presenting facts about why they should be.

I haven't seen her give a speech recently, so I don't know if the article is accurate.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. Oh, dear.

"Speech" as in "Freedom of Speech." I'm surprised that needs clarification on this newsgroup.

And if conservatives can find their niche audiences, why can't Liberals? Why is it so threatening to people that Liberals might congregate and enjoy their own taste of political humor?

What happened to this country?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

4. The thing is...

she was approaching it from a stand-up point of view. That is why it was simplistic. She was joking. Someone needs to tell the people that left what joking is. If they saw her on The Bill Maher Show then they would realize that she is not simplistic and that she backs her rhetoric with facts.

[Eric J in MN]

7. Yes, I'd need to see more of what she said to judge.

I don't know if the article is portraying her act accurately or not.

If she gets a radio show (as is planned on the same liberal network which would have Al Franken) I'll tune in and judge for myself.

[ACK]

5. This is how it works... the article is right.. but we need Garofalo

Each side of the political spectrum needs a few people seeing the world in these simplistic harsh terms.

It is cool. It allows others to frame themselves in the in-between and determine how much of the black and white fits into the grey for them.

She is a bit simplistic but so what?

She is not a wild eyed bloodthirsty fanatic calling for the horrid death of the treasonous scum that dare to think different than her. That is Ann Coulter.