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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:31 AM
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A New "Night of Long Knives?" (editorial on possible GOP gay purge)
Interesting editorial about the possible repurcussions of "the list" and the GOP religious fanatics if they choose to go after gay and lesbian members and staffers.

Also, I hadn't seen any mention of Gannon being behind the "Soros did it" nonsense.

The whole article is worth a read, but the last 4 paragraphs caught my attention.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/101006T.shtml

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If Republicans try to blame homosexuals for the Foley scandal it could blow up on them big time. As David Corn noted on Wednesday, some of the most radical rightwing Republicans - including Representatives Katherine Harris and Henry Hyde, and Senators Bill Frist, George Allen, Mitch McConnell and Rick Santorum - have had gay staffers. Homosexuals staffers are certain to have loads of information about their bosses' past misdeeds. Will gay Republicans still in the closet sit idly by and be made the scapegoat for Hastert's failure of leadership? I don't think so. The Republican homosexuals have excellent media contacts.

We've already seen how two of the homosexual staffers - Kirk Fordham, Mr. Foley's onetime chief of staff who resigned Wednesday as an aide to Representative Thomas M. Reynolds, Republican of New York, and Jeff Trandahl, formerly the clerk of the House of Representatives - responded to Denny Hastert's "memory" problems. These gay guys ain't walking a plank for the Republican agenda.

Some in the homosexual community continue to play defense for the Republicans. Remember our old buddy, Jeff Gannon aka Guckert? Gannon, who posed nude and appeared on several websites as a male escort, also hung out at the White House as a faux journalist. Gannon is helping lead the charge claiming that this scandal is the fault of George Soros and Democrats. It would help to know why Gannon remains so protective of a White House that espouses so many anti-homosexual policies. So far the media has failed to investigate who Gannon was "seeing" in the White House when he was not asking softball questions.

Hopefully, the homosexual community - Republican and Democrat - will be left alone and allowed to go on serving their country just as heterosexuals do. The Foley scandal is not about being gay; it is about inappropriate behavior between an adult and children. As the Republican position becomes more desperate in the coming days, the long knives will come out. Only this go-around, I don't think the homosexuals will take the assault lying down.

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:34 AM
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1. Won't be many of the GOP left if they do a gay purge?
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 11:34 AM by savemefromdumbya
will we see Queen Hastert resign or be fired?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:37 AM
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2. HRH Hastert. BUHWAWAWA!
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:38 AM
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3. I'm against attacking gays just for being gay, aren't you?
line from the article

"Hopefully, the homosexual community - Republican and Democrat - will be left alone and allowed to go on serving their country just as heterosexuals do."

The problem is that the GOP would rather attack gays that actually support them rather than flush out the scum in their midst like Hastert that chose protecting their power over protecting an underage child.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:42 AM
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6. It's the predators of children who are the problem not gays
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:44 AM
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8. precisely my point
The GOP is choosing to scapegoat those like Hastert that aided a pedophile by vilifying and blaming the gays who are in their party.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:43 AM
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7. it's all about their "base"
The repugs are being outed by various books and pundits as actually being contemptuous of the fundies and how they are just pandering to them for votes, but privately laughing their asses off. This may be a desperate attempt to convince the really stupid fundies that the repugs actually do care about some items on their agenda, like hating gays.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:47 AM
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9. I totally agree
And I hope it blows up in their faces just as the article suggests it might.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:39 AM
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4. Just like Negroes in the GOP...being used by the massa to forward
the massa's agenda.

I can't stand anyone who vote against their own civil liberties and pocket book.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:14 PM
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10. Hey! Eric is a good dem!
:waves at Xultar:
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:37 PM
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14. House Ni... ahem, cough cough
(Disclaimer: my mom is Jewish and my father is black. According to the rules of racism, I am not only one screwed-up individual for this, I am also just black, because my skin is brown and my hair is pretty fuzzy. I can therefore say the following...)

THEY AIN'T NOTHIN' BUT HOUSE NIGGAS!

How about that lil Rainbow Coalition of The Damned they've got running there? Whaddamachine...

Alberto Gonzales = "I'm not really Latino. I'm Republican."
Condi Rice = "I'm not really black. I'm Republican."
Alan Dershowitz = "I'm not really Jewish. I'm Zionist."
Michelle Malkin = "I'm not really a Thai ladyboy. I'm Republican."
Ann Coulter = "I'm not really a woman. But then you knew that."
Colin Powell = "I'm not really black. Wait a minute, they fired me! Yes I am!"

Believe it, folks, the GOP had this team assembled and ready from the get-go. The object was to mislead the public and create propaganda to make Americans think the Democrats speak for nobody, because "OBVIOUSLY, COME ON, HERE are members of prized liberal Democrat demographics saying the exact opposite thing from what Democrats believe, to make YOU think the Democrats are wrong and bunch of moonbats out of touch with everything, and we are right."

Here's how the propaganga goes folks:

"Surely if a woman, Ann Coulter (cough... woman...) can say abortion is wrong and peace is ridiculous, any other woman saying that must be a moonbat, right?

"Surely if an Asian, Michelle Malkin, can say we're right, all Asians should think that, right?

"Surely if a Latino agrees Latino immigrants should be detained and given no access to attorneys, the rest of you Latinos would be dumb for thinking Democrats are right in fighting that. Right?

"Surely if a black guy endorses and works with us Republicans, we're right, aren't we?

"Surely if a self-hating and deeply confused black woman who sucks the President's dick every night and is carrying on a full-blown affair with him in front of the First Lady, which is why she's visibly on enough Seconal to tranquilize an elephant in order to deal with it, supports everything we say and is a vicious war hawk in the name of the regime, where do Democrats stand with black women? The Democrats must be ridiculous, mustn't they?"

Calculating to the last, Dr. Evil! However, for all your calibrations, enervations, mastications, obfuscations and penetrations, you forget one highly critical factor:

Minorities have communities, experience, and a memory.
This is nothing but pitting the House Niggas against the Field Niggas.
Racists have done that since colonial days, and WE ALL REMEMBER IT.
Um, we have grandparents who experienced and saw it.

Gamepoint.
Game over.

View more of my kosher blackness at:

www.yourmorningleibowitz.blogspot.com
The Daily Show as a comic strip

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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:47 PM
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15. And lest I forget, House Fa...
Mark Foley = "I'm not really gay. I'm Republican and will stick it to my gay brothers and sisters dead square in the back to advance my bosses' gayhating agenda. Essentially, I suck, just like the Jewish guys who became police over the ghettoes beating fellow Jews to death and terrorizing them in uniform the name of the Nazis, in the last days before the ovens, just to get a paycheck and be looked up to, and have power."

That power was temporary. Want to see these traitors? Watch the excellent "Uprising" by Jon Avnet, starring Hank Azaria. These were Jewish men swaggering around in Nazi police uniform (which included, as per the law, A YELLOW STAR ARMBAND!!!!!) bashing nightsticks on Jewish elderly heads and whipping and kicking young Jewish heroes to death in alleyways and shadows, terrorizing their own, just to enjoy perks and power while their own people suffered. Dining on the blood and pain of their fellow Jews. I see gayhating assholes like Mark Foley as no different. In my opinion the gay community should not even claim someone like Foley. Make up a new word for him and his kind. Gay hating fellow gay doesn't get to be called gay. Jews who hate Jews should not be called Jews. Blacks like Condoleezza Rice are not black. These creatures are Something Else and there should be a new name for them.

Incidentally, once the concentration camps were ready and the tumbrilitis began, Jewish police put by Nazis in the ghettoes were rounded up and marched to their deaths as well.

Brief glory indeed.

You reading this, Mr. Foley? That's your future!
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:40 AM
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5. I truly hope they purge the party.
That more than anything will unify the gay vote into an even more powerful voting block.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:37 PM
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11. This could be a time where the Republican Party splits
or redefines itself. There are many traditional financial conservative Republicans who are not happy with the Neocons and the direction they are moving the party. There are Evangelicals who are becoming unhappy with how they have been used by the Republicans and many may look for somewhere else to go. The irony here is that it might be the Republican Party that spawns a potentially viable third party in this country. Either way, it sure looks like the Republican Party is coming apart.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:30 PM
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12. If it happens I hope it's the religious nuts that get purged
I think it would be a positive result if real conservatives stole their party back from the neocons and their religious dupes.

This country could use some real political debate. At this point I actually miss being infuriated by the likes of Art Buchwald. I didn't agree with them on anything, but at least their was some logical basis to their arguments.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:34 PM
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13. Gay "Purge" - geez, nice choice of words!
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:09 PM
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16. pardon the unintended image
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carzen Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:17 PM
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17. the party of hate marches on
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:26 PM
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18. and it looks like they're choosing to purge
those who have been too tolerant of their hateful agenda (gay GOPers) rather than those who are demanding an ever more hateful agenda (the religious right).

That corner the GOP is painting themselves into is getting tighter all the time.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:50 PM
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19. from the article- explanation of the original "Night of the Long Knives"
swell wat to treat your best friend, eh?


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/101006T.shtml

Hitler eliminated his closest friend Roehm and certain SA leaders as potential rivals. The strictly political motivation of this ruthless power play was initially too obvious to be entirely denied, but later it was conveniently obscured by charges of homosexual depravity (Haberle:369f).

The formal accusations against Roehm and those arrested with him centered on their homosexual activities, which Hitler had of course known about for fifteen years and shrugged off, it being alleged that these activities disgraced the party. For those victims without any homosexual background, "the Great Blood Purge" continued all over Germany, as Nazi leaders got rid of all their most hated enemies, as well as the inevitable "mistakes" (Garde :726f).

I am by no means suggesting that Republican leaders are getting ready to murder homosexual Republicans. However, I do believe the fallout from the Mark Foley scandal will be a springboard for the religious right to press for a purge of the "sodomites" from important positions. If they do that things could get quite interesting.
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