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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 07:46 PM
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"It's the Identity, Stupid" (how Baptist's have taken over part of USA)
Edited on Sun May-28-06 08:12 PM by KoKo01
IT's's the Identity, Stupid

by Chris Bowers, Fri May 26, 2006 at 11:19:15 AM EST
Look at this red and blue map of America:


I find this map fascinating, because the red-blue divide of states on the electoral map are reproduced in a red-blue divide between Catholic and Lutheran) counties on one hand, and Baptist, Christian, Mormon and Methodist counties on the other hand. I think this is fascinating stuff, and you can find many more of these maps here.

I reproduce this map not to argue that certain religions are inherently liberal, and that others are inherently conservative. Truthfully, I do not think that is the case at all. Rather, as we approach election season, I reproduce this map because the progressive netroots is composed of political obsessives. Most of us spend an inordinate amount of time focused on current events, legislative policy, abstract matters of ideology, infrastructure, media narratives, electoral activism, and general strategy. Sometimes, I feel that because we are so obsessed with politics online that we often lose touch with what truly motivates voters. 80% of the country has no idea who Ann coulter is. Hell, 60% of the country has no idea who Harry Reid is.

Over the past year and a half, I have slowly developed an argument that the electorate is, in general, non-ideological, not interested in policy, and generally unmoved by the day-to-day minutia of political events that, within the blogosphere, are treated as cataclysmic events. Sure, most people hold general political beliefs, but in general national voting habits are motivated by something else--something more basic. As we look for ways to motivate voters in November, we need to remember the powerful role that identity plays in political decision-making. As progressives, we shrug off concepts such as the "battle of civilizations," but if you look closely at demographic data, maybe it is a battle of civilizations taking place after all. We may very well be living in an era of identity politics. Who knows, maybe every era of American politics is an era of identity politics.

Motivating voters and pulling off a landslide election will require a gut-level change of attitude about the two parties among millions of Americans. For all of the great policies everyone will suggest Democrats to run on this fall, ultimately winning will be based just as much on how Americans view their identity

MORE...at
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/5/26/111915/503
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 07:47 PM
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1. Southern Baptist convention, to be more specific.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:05 PM
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2. Yes....there is a "split" and it was good to see one side of the split
here at a huge NC Peace Rally...where they were supporting NOT Invading Iraq early on before Bush went in.

(I edited my post...because even though it was within DU Editorial guidelines...it seemed too inflammatory...given that many Baptists have turned against: "Doctrine of Pre-Emptive Strike" promoted by the Bushies.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:21 PM
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3. Match it up with these maps & graphs
Edited on Sun May-28-06 09:21 PM by depakid
and you'll see what a pernicious influence the are:















Check out Robert Putnam's summary paper for more on this: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/25/6/1825848.pdf
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:35 PM
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5. WTF is "social capital"
I read his definition and didn't understand a word.

:wtf:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:39 PM
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6. Schools, Parks, Services, Libraries, Childcare, Health, Arts,
Edited on Mon May-29-06 04:41 PM by Demeter
anything that you can't do yourself, even police and fire, social services are social capital, including the buildings that house them. It's that part of the village that helps to raise a child.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:14 PM
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8. WOW! look at the bullseye in the Upper Midwest!
That makes me proud to be a Minnesotan.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:42 PM
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4. Are people Baptist because they're Republican,
Republican because they're Baptist, or is there something else fueling both?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:40 PM
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7. I Expect That They Are Sheep First, Therefore Baptists and Replublicans
since neither group is into free thinking or freedom of expression or tolerance of diversity...
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