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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:24 PM
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Guckert/Gannon and understanding REPUBLICAN GAY-ness
It's going to be the news of the week -- unless Bush decides to bomb something -- that gay prostitution infiltrated the Republican's side of the journalistic bullpen. I can't wait to see what we bomb.

As a 30-something woman, I'm having a difficult time digesting all this new, gay culture I'm being introduced to via the Guckert/Gannon story. Who knew men prefer chest-waxing to a good old manly rug? Personally, I'm for the rug. It's how I can tell my partner is of age. Oh, I guess that's the point.

Who knew their heads weren't the only thing they shaved. Not a bad idea in my opinion, but it seems risky. Is there a special styptic pencil for that? On the one hand, shaving one's balls seems a generous and romantic gesture. On the other, I'm thinking why waste a good shave on wrestling. That's how I know they aren't just wrestling. You aren't going to waste a set of freshly shaved balls on pinning a guy down without showing him who is boss -- so to speak. We're talking about SHAVED BALLS HERE FOR GOD'S SAKE! He's going to feel unattractive if you don't fuck him. Look at all the thought he put into your encounter!

The ins and outs of this gay underworld are fascinating. Imagine how special you would feel if your honey went to a fraction of the lengths that men go to have sex with men. Set aside the hair removal for a moment. There's classified advertising. Boudoir photography. There's weekends of travel to exotic places. High society social events with an accepted language and a tacit agreement of secrecy. Imagine if straight folks enjoyed such openness in their affairs. Wow. We'd all be fucking each other constantly. I'd be madness. You'd never get anything done.

Speaking of that -- where do these guys find the TIME for all this messing around? They are running the country (into the ground), which has to be time-consuming. They have the campaigning and the fundraisers and the leaking of stories -- who among them has time for wrestling? There's the war and dismantling Social Security, these are busy men. Do you think they all shave their balls? I can't stop thinking about the shaved balls. I'm imagining Bush giving the State of the Union address with itchy undies. Am I to understand that dangling beneath Rove's pleated sans-a-belts hang a pair of pink ping pong balls. It's almost too much to bear.

And who knew the homo chickenhawks in the administration really longed for love in the fox hole. Rove and the rest of the Velvet Mafia cruise for HOT MILITARY STUDS. You'd think since they can't resist a man in uniform they would have JUMPED at the chance to serve in Vietnam. Were they deferred for priapism? They apparently don't want gays in the military because they want them out here in civilian life where they are available to answer their page.

Best of all, who knew that gay men find gay-bashing attractive. It's such a topsy-turvy world. You have to appear manly on the outside, while looking like a boy on the "inside." You have to wrestle and otherwise beat each other up to show your love. And finally, you must look like a Drill Sergeant in order to attract draft-dodgers.

Thank you Jim Guckert, for this insight into your world. I guess I can take you at your word, that gays are sick. My experience up until now has been that gay men want pretty much what anyone else wants -- acceptance, security, and equal protection under the law. But then again, all the gay men I know are Democrats. Maybe that's the difference.

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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:46 PM
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1. Thanks -- I'm still laughing
You certainly list a whole lot of subjects I've NEVER thought about or even considered.

The image of Rove and bushie with shaved balls -- oh yeck -- yeck yuck.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:44 PM
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5. like i said, spending a time researching this makes
your mind goes places it has never been.

actually, did i say that?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:48 PM
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2. Thank you.
The pink ping pong balls under the SansABelt was the best laugh I've had all day.
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Blower Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:48 PM
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3. BWA HA HA HA! n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 02:02 PM
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20. i'm a bad, bad girl
:)
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:59 PM
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4. Nicely done.
I think you're really on to something here. No one is more conflicted than a gay Republican. It's all about wanting to join a club that wouldn't have someone like you as a member. The thrill lies in passing for straight, I guess--finding the one place in society where there's still a big ol' closet, and climbing into it. Makes you wonder which comes first in the psychic heirarchy--politics or sexuality. Or are they, as the queer theorists tell us, indistinguishable?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:46 PM
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6. what was it that woody allen said about not wanting to be in a club
that would have you?

oh wait, that's the opposite.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:52 PM
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8. The original quote was Groucho:
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:19 AM
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10. it's a sad comment on my scope of cultural reference
or maybe it's the postmodern condition to quote someone using the original to suit their ends. as the Odds wrote, "i'm the song about the song that once said something new."
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bogey18 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:53 PM
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9. I thought it was Groucho Marx
"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would accept me as a member!"
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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:33 PM
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7. Hysterical!
Thanks for making me laugh out loud.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:23 AM
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11. all that macho posturing seemed too exaggerated
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 01:20 AM
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12. i love it when Bush fluffs up his chest feathers and struts
it's so transparent. the swagger of the dispossessed.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 03:53 AM
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13. have to figure out a simple way to say to jethros
like "I love it when bush acts all manly. did you know he was a cheerleader in college?"
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:43 AM
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19. i KNOW -- i can't believe that wasn't a DNC tv commercial during
either campaign.

every time i think about that i think about the teri oteri and will ferrel cheerleading characters. i wonder if ferrel ever did this skit in his Bush character.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 03:38 PM
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21. Ferrel does anti-Bush stuff still--send him the idea
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 03:40 PM
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22. Dean should have used "not a trained cheerleader" as defense for scream
"I'm sorry, but I'm not a trained cheerleader like President Bush or Trent Lott, nor do I dress up like one on the weekend like Karl Rove."
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 12:43 AM
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29. Dean was framed:
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 12:44 AM by nashville_brook
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:28 AM
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14. Hilarious! What a strange backwards world these people live in.
I too have been going places on this that have opened a whole new world for me. It seems like for them the deception is part of the fun.

Let's see they're against the idea of gay people officially declaring their love for each other and settling down to a world of monogamy, joint bank accounts, daycare and unfortunately divorce courts but they are apparently perfectly cool with prominent married politicians conducting surrupticious meetings with sweet young things in discrete gentlemens clubs, and cruising the Internet for guys who shave their genitals and dress up in military uniforms.

OK, I get it--sort of. If it's public it's bad. If it's private it's OK, sort of, as long as nobody knows but the guy who's threatening to send those pictures of you and that fourteen year old you picked up last year to the Washington Post if you don't cough up the cash or vote the way his client wants you to vote.

Yeah I get it.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:17 AM
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16. this is my humor piece -- the serious one is here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x330564


i really think it's deeper than what i poke fun of -- but ridicule is so very important as a political tool.
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kimberst Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:09 AM
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15. WTF?
Why are progressives spending so much time on the gay angle? The issue here is lack of credentials and manipulation of the press. Yeah I know, Republican hypocrisy, but since when is that new? It really bothers me to see progressives resort to "look at the funny fag" arguments simply because the target is repub. " It's how I can tell my partner is of age. Oh, I guess that's the point." Using the same stereotypes the Repubs use to advance the marriage amendment? Nice. If Ann Coulter had said that, we'd be screaming bigot. Guess its ok tho, long as you're liberal huh?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:20 AM
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17. welcome to DU!
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 11:21 AM by nashville_brook
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x330564

read on -- and i'll re-post my piece on ridicule here as soon as i can dig it up.

REpug hypocrisy may not be new, but we ignore at our peril -- AND it's funny. to me, at least.

for a sense of why we are spending so much time on the gay angle -- think back a few years to Clinton.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:24 AM
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18. i just woke up -- i almost forgot
this isn't his PERSONAL LIFE. it's his "professional" life. he was a HOOKER! he, him -- jim --jeff-- whatever, whoever... HE posted those photos of himself to sell his "serivces." i'm not digging into anyone's personal peccadillos in order to embarrass him. it's fair game.
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kimberst Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:10 PM
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23. Absolutely
Thanks for the welcome :)
I agree absolutely with the outing of Gannon. The problem I have is with the focus of the story being all "ooo, big gay white house scandal" if you get my drift. The important part of the story, the fact that some jackass with no credentials got a press pass, is being overshadowed by the fact that the credential-less asshat was gay. Or gay for pay, whichever the case may be. I think its important to out the closeted queer repubs and make their hypocrisy known far and wide, but this is bigger than that. This is government manipulation of the free press and I think that's far more frightening than a gay hooker in the white house.
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car54whereareyou Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 09:50 PM
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24. You are a very talented writer!
and have no need to apologize to those who prudishly refuse to aknowledge the power of sexual politics. If we can't laugh we have lost our souls for eternity.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 10:27 PM
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25. thanks for that -- i was starting to wonder.
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car54whereareyou Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:04 PM
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26. My only regret
is that I did not see your first post within 24 hours, so I could not vote it on to the front page. However, I was able to right that wrong by voting for your link. You're in the big time now!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:34 PM
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27. wheeeee!
i love this story -- it's like a giant jigsaw puzzle. juicy too.
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car54whereareyou Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:42 PM
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28. And it's a motherlode of irony, too!
Keep writing and posting!:yourock:
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