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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:48 AM
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Latinos' support for Bush debated...(more votes than voters again!!)
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 03:18 AM by truthpusher
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2886704

Nov. 6, 2004, 6:54PM

Latinos' support for Bush debated
Exit-poll math doesn't add up, one institute says


By MIKE TOLSON

Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

At first blush, the numbers seem too significant to be believed. And in truth, they might be.

National exit polls show that President Bush received an impressive 42 percent of the nationwide Latino vote Tuesday, seven to 10 points higher than his first run and possibly unprecedented for a modern-day Republican candidate.

But a prominent Latino organization claims the numbers are as incredible as they appear.

"It ain't true," said Antonio Gonzalez, president of the Willie C. Velazquez Institute, which researches Latino voting patterns. "Their poll showed more Latinos voting than there are registered Latino voters. That tells you everything you need to know."

lots more here: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2886704
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:12 AM
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1. more evidence....excellent
FUCK THE BOZOS!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:14 AM
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2. Amazing, you would think the Truth needs to be found out
instead, "Get over it" Its all finished, nothing to see here, move on"
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:16 AM
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3.  "Their poll showed more Latinos voting than there are registered Latinos"
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 03:16 AM by sonicx
faith-based electorate.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 05:09 AM
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9. Bush voters multiply just like loaves and fishes
It's a miracle.
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:26 AM
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4. This article claims that the polls were way off:
He said pre-election polling by various Latino organizations repeatedly showed Democrat John Kerry with a 2-1 edge over Bush, as did election-night exit polls by his organization.

"It doesn't square," he said. "Every poll for everybody had Latinos agreeing with Kerry on the issues. The media pollsters do good surveys. But it's like measuring water with a slide ruler. It's the wrong instrument for measuring the Latino vote."

-And it says that exit polls were incorrect as well. Meaning that Bush legitimately gained ground with Hispanics. -

The $10 million polling system used by major news media to forecast the result of the presidential race had several problems. Selected results early on Election Day indicated a Kerry victory, for instance.

But among the dozens of numbers produced by the national exit poll, perhaps none were more surprising than the Latino totals for Texas. Bush, the poll concluded, earned 59 percent of their votes, a 16 percent jump from the same poll's 2000 number.

Latino-voting experts agree Bush did better in their communities than he did in 2000. In the lower Rio Grande Valley, for instance, Kerry won Hidalgo County 55 percent to 45 percent and lost narrowly in Cameron County. Both have Hispanic populations exceeding 80 percent.

But if Bush actually did claim almost 60 percent of the Latino vote statewide, his overall margin over Kerry in Texas should have been closer to 70 percent, not the final 61 percent to 38 percent, Gonzalez said.




Fuck Houston. They are just covering bush's back.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:47 AM
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6. It's a muddy up the waters story.
They cite exit polls but not the source of the polls and they don't tell us if they were corrected to reflect the Bush fantasy or if they were the original polls.

They tell us nothing about the Latino Groups or their affiliations.
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:36 AM
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5. Keep all these stories handy.
More ammunition for the fight.

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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:57 AM
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7. Ricky, You Gotta Lotta 'Splainin To Do"
you weren't spose to get caught!

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...pre-election polling by various Latino organizations repeatedly showed Democrat John Kerry with a 2-1 edge over Bush, as did election-night exit polls by his organization.

A Houston-area poll for the Houston Chronicle by Zogby International just before the election indicated that Latino voters favored Kerry 53 percent to 45 percent.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:17 AM
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8. We need to take the control of elections AWAY from Republicans
by finding a method that insures no one gets the upper hand. This story tells us we were screwed in Texas, too. Big time.

How could this happen for a SECOND PRESENDENTIAL ELECTION? As it is written,
There's an old saying in Tennessee. I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says "Fool me once... (pause) "... shame on..." (pause)"Shame on you..." (pause) "If fooled, you can't get fooled again."
They commit new crimes before their actions can be criminalized formally. Pre-emptive winning by knocking out the other's votes. Unbelievable.

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:10 PM
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10. More evidence that Bush stole the election!
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