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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:53 AM
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Iraq Now World's Most Hostile Environment-Analyst
DUBAI (Reuters) - The Iraqi insurgency has reached a critical new level with radical Sunni and Shi'ite groups spreading beyond their traditional bases in the world's "most hostile environment," a security analyst said on Sunday.

Paul Beat, director of International Asset Protection at London-based Control Risks Group, said the violence of recent weeks, with militants seizing foreign hostages from the heart of Baghdad and staging a spate of suicide bombings, marked a new stage in the conflict.

"Terrorists are operating in larger and larger groups and becoming more and more daring," Beat, a former counter-terrorist specialist in the British army, told Reuters on the sidelines of the forum in the United Arab Emirates on Iraq reconstruction.

"They're launching bigger, multiple attacks. Now they use one vehicle at the entrance (to compounds) to knock out guards and then drive a second bomb through to get inside," he said.

more...

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=reutersEdge&storyID=6333795

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freemarketer Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:58 AM
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1. The biggest mistake in the history of the United States............
What are we doing?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:03 AM
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2. I didn't know Basra was "no go" as well.....
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 09:15 AM by leftchick
I got the link working!...

<"There are large areas of Baghdad which are no-go for the coalition, and a lot of parts of Basra which are now no-go too," he said, adding that a steady flow of international firms setting up in Iraq had all but dried up. >

Remember when Basra was their first big "success story" in Iraq?

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freemarketer Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:12 AM
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3. I'm getting it okay..................nft
sssssssdf
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:58 AM
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10. UK forces fired 100,000 rounds last month...
...most intense fighting since the Korean War.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:19 AM
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4. Is it stories like this and the CIA report last week that Shrub called
"Guesses" the reason they may be trying to get out of that first debate that will focus on Iraq? That's assuming the cancellation rumors aren't another Rovian move of course. :shrug:

I posted this other article, but it was moved by the moderator.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6100354/site/newsweek/

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Bush's central problem is with the third factor: the path to success. His goals are clear and effectively stated. But he appears unaware of the situation on the ground in Iraq. He says he is "pleased with the progress" so far and speaks of a "handful of terrorists" disrupting democracy in Iraq. Contrast this picture with the one painted two weeks ago by a team from the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a hawkish think tank, that conducted an extensive survey of Iraq. They concluded that in every dimension, from security to reconstruction to economics, Iraq was slipping backward. This is also the view of the CIA and almost all journalists in Iraq. Bush risks coming across not as visionary but as someone disconnected from reality.

Great wartime leaders know that they owe their public bad news as well as good. Such honesty maintains a leader's credibility and reassures the public that it is not being manipulated. Churchill and Roosevelt routinely acknowledged the difficult times during World War II. Describing the disaster of Dunkirk, when British troops fled France, abandoning most of their equipment, Churchill said, "Wars are not won by evacuations."

Bush's refusal to acknowledge mistakes is not simply an image problem. The administration made its gravest mistakes in Iraq because it did not want to accept that the reality on the ground was different from its theories. It refused to recognize the need for a larger force, which was obvious within days of the fall of Baghdad and the collapse of order in Iraq. ("Freedom is messy," Donald Rumsfeld explained, dismissing the matter.) It did not want to see that a nakedly American occupation was generating anti-Americanism. It did not want to accept that its plans were not working.

John Kerry faces two challenges on this front. The first is to tie the failures of the Iraq war to Bush and his leadership traits. He will need to demonstrate that Bush's confidence does not equal competence. His second challenge is to provide a sense of his own plans and display his own competence on these issues. This has not always been necessary for presidential challengers. During the Korean War, Eisenhower could campaign on ending the conflict by saying in effect, "Trust me. I will go to Korea and figure out what to do." But Ike had directed the invasion of Europe, the largest and most successful military operation in the history of humankind. He had credibility on that subject that no one else will ever have. Bush and Kerry need to be more specific.

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:21 AM
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5. I guess this is what catastrophic success is all about.. n/t
MKJ
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:32 AM
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6. Thanks for the update floda....
This article really contrasts what chimp and the interm Prime Minister of Iraq said earlier this week... "That its not as bad as people think!"...

:kick:

:toast:
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:18 AM
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7. kick
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:46 AM
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8. But, but, but
I've heard Bush and Cheney say that we're making progress in Iraq, and that Democracy is taking hold, and that we're winning the war on terrorism because of it.

Say it isn't so!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:55 AM
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9. kick
:kick:

The world is "safer" per this mal-administration.

:grr:
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:22 PM
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11. The US neocon government
couldn't forsee this? Imbeciles!
11 million marched. We knew this would happen.
2/15/03:


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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:59 PM
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12. Mission Accomplished.
Or some such bush bullshite.
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