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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:48 AM
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NYT: Live from Miami, a Style Showdown(Henry Fonda, Steve McQueen debate?)
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:16 AM by Skinner
Here we go, folks, fwiw --


Live From Miami, a Style Showdown

By ALEX WILLIAMS
Published: September 26, 2004


IN boxing terms, you could say a matchup between John Kerry and George W. Bush is a classic case of a dancer vs. a puncher: Mr. Kerry flicks around the periphery of issues; Mr. Bush pounds right through them.

The matchup on Thursday at the University of Miami, site of the highly anticipated first presidential debate, can be expected to pit the two men against each other, trading punches over Iraq and job creation. But if previous debates are any guide, the candidate who voters perceive as the winner will probably be chosen not on the substance of what he says, but on the cut of his jib.

The subtle style cues of gesture, posture, syntax and tone of voice account for as much as 75 percent of a viewer's judgment about the electability of a candidate, said Bill Carrick, a political consultant who ran Richard A. Gephardt's presidential campaign this year. In a word, he said, the mano a mano is about style — those nonverbal messages that speak to hearts, not heads.

(Face: According to Caroline F. Keating, a professor of psychology at Colgate University, Kerry's "anvil-like chin conveys power, but his droopy brows and hooded eyes send an unwelcome signal of age and lethargy"; to counteract this, he should be more "animated" and smile more. His hair is an asset, and conveys youthfulness. She says Bush's round face and "close-cropped hair" "signal warmth and approachability but also, at times, an unfortunate boyishness." She says "the power in the president's (sic) visage comes from his narrow eyes and lips, which are signs of dominance," but says his blinking eyes and licking lips are negatives.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/fashion/26DEBA.html
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:09 AM
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1. To even think Shrub & Steve McQueen is UnAmerican.
I loved Steve McQueen.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:35 AM
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2. DeepModem Mom
You need to snip this down to fewer paragraphs to meet copyright rules
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:46 AM
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3. Please see question sent in alert -- thanks!
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 05:48 AM by DeepModem Mom
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:49 AM
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5. Just put some snippies in there,
also notate where you summarize. :hi:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:49 AM
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6. Darn! Editing period just expired -- I'm sorry...
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 05:54 AM by DeepModem Mom
All of the material after the first line and two paragraphs -- the material inside the parentheses -- is summarized; direct quotes from the article, within the summary, are indicated by quotation marks.

Again, sorry --
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:59 AM
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7. OK
It's hard for me to tell what is quoted and summarized. Unless I analyze the whole article ( no time) and I've got a few freepers to take care of this morning ( lol ) Anyway, the admin. can come and snip some of it.

Don't worry.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:48 AM
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4. I knew Steve McQueen
Steve McQueen was a friend of mine, and you sir are NO Steve McQueen.

According to Kitty Kelley, he may be a Queen however...
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:55 AM
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8. More like Gary Cooper and Strother Martin....
... if you ask me. ;)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:27 AM
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9. Funny, W also thinks body language is his actual job! (comment made
about his role in the ME talks) Dumbing down, playing with pop culture to endear fearless leader. :puke:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:43 AM
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10. wtf?!? Steve McQueen? What an insult to his memory!
I am thinking more like this guy...


sorry Walter....
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:16 AM
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11. Screw York Times spins for the Nazis again!
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:16 AM by The Zanti Regent
How can any person with any integrity work at such a fucking right-wing propaganda factory?
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