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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 02:56 PM
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Bush says Kerry "hardly credible" on Iraq
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1963&e=5&u=/afp/20040921/pl_afp/us_vote_bush_kerry_040921190209

Bush dismissed Kerry's charges from Monday that a "colossal failures of judgment" have wrought a "crisis of historic proportions" in Iraq.

"My opponent has taken so many different positions on Iraq that his statements are hardly credible at all," said Bush, who has alleged that Kerry is fickle on Iraq -- a crucial message of his reelection campaign.

Bush said he and Allawi "agree that the world is better off with Saddam Hussein sitting in a prison cell.

"And that stands in stark contrast to the statement my opponent made yesterday when he said that the world was better off with Saddam in power. I strongly disagree," said the president.

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Bush is so f'n delusional!!!!!!! :grr: :grr:
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 02:58 PM
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1. A critique from "Baghdad Bush"
is hardly worth mentioning.. After all it is him who got us in this mess in the first place..
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:07 PM
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8. Does sound like that guy. He just keeps saying all is good.
Going to be a shock when his kool-aid people wake up but then they may never see the light.Mother's that think it is nice their child die for the man, like the dirty air, their jobs going over seas and a new job at 7-11, and all the fun things the Republicans are bring us to.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:13 PM
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17. The Great Projector. That's all he's really good at. nt
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 02:59 PM
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2. his base will feed off that line - but Indies won't buy it, especially now
that John Kerry is cranking up his visibility.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:01 PM
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3. the flip flop thing is starting to wear thin
last night a Bush spokesperson on Charlie Rose tried to answer a substantive question with the flip flop crap, and Rose got pissed, interrupted and said please answer without talking about Kerry flip-flopping.

I think the public is going to get sick of Bush playing these games, time to start taking this shit seriously.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:19 PM
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18. It's so annoying
The press has let them get away with simply using the "flip flop" as an answer to any criticism of Bush from Kerry, I'm glad Rose stood up to them!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:14 PM
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29. Wafer thin.
The "flip-flop" charge began when Reagan accused Carter of "vacillation."

It's the Pugs Energizer Bunny.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:02 PM
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4. Yes and Chimpy's just a mountain of integrity
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 03:03 PM by Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:03 PM
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5. That Cheney is sure pulling those puppet strings into the wacko zone.
What the hell is Bush talking about? I heard Kerry say Saddam deserves a special place in hell? Will someone tell this lunatic to settle down before he detonates a nu-clu-ar bomb at Iraq because he's so mad at Kerry? Geesh...I do not feel safer with these hot heads and their hands on the button.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:04 PM
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6. LOOK WHO'S F*CKING TALKING!
The mass-murderer idiot who lied to the world about WMD, among thousands of other lies. Pathetic.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:04 PM
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7. if you look up "incredible" in the dictionary
you will find a picture of *Co.

This guttersnipe will stop at nothing to prolong its evil existence in our government.

:puke:
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:08 PM
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9. It's not a "delusion"; it is a tactic
Bush always accuses his opponent of being guilty of what he in fact actually does, or intends to do. He is totally wrong and utterly lost on Iraq, whereas Kerry has a coherent understanding and strategy to deal with the mess His Chimperial Majesty created -- so Bush needs to accuse Kerry of acting and thinking like Bush.

This has been true of every Rove campaign.

Bush himself even warned us as much -- that he would steal all his opponents issues and make them his own.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:08 PM
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10. He lies with impunity...
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 03:10 PM by bushbash
or so he thinks. He's so disconnected at this point that he doesn't realize he's gone over the side. Someone on DU a month or so ago mentioned a phrase that I think is very fitting to this little diatribe by the Scrub: "They always reach too far."

I think the demarcation point has been breached.

On edit, I thought of another fitting description for this stupidity: "I know you are, but what am I?"
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:20 PM
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13. W is the real Flip Flopper!
President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief
September 2, 2004

From the beginning, George W. Bush has made his own credibility a central issue. On 10/11/00, then-Gov. Bush said: "I think credibility is important.It is going to be important for the president to be credible with Congress, important for the president to be credible with foreign nations." But President Bush's serial flip-flopping raises serious questions about whether Congress and foreign leaders can rely on what he says.

1. Social Security Surplus
BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus."
...BUSH SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes."

2. Patient's Right to Sue
GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in adverse health <http://searchmiracle.com/text/search.php?qq=Health> effects."

...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people. And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've got in Texas."

...PRESIDENT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits, Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books in nine other states."

3. Tobacco Buyout
BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think that needs to be changed."
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The administration is open to a buyout."

4. North Korea
BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach." <PRESIDENT'S 02 15 11 Statement,

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of that nature."

5. Abortion
BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question."
...BUSH OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life."

6. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."

...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds."

7. Iraq Funding
BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04"

...BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal year to meet all commitments to our troops."

8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony
BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'... "Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of preference."

...BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public testimony."

9. Science
BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by what may feel good or what sounds good."

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60 leading scientists-including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former federal agency directors and university chairs and presidents-issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking. According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific anal <http://searchmiracle.com/text/search.php?qq=anal>ysis from federal agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of scientific advisory panels."

10. Ahmed Chalabi
BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving

...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers
raided the home of America's one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and computers <http://searchmiracle.com/text/search.php?qq=Computers>."

11. Department of Homeland Security
BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything."

...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people."

12. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out."

13. Free Trade
BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue."

...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection."

14. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"

...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."

15. The Environment
BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... ", Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide."

...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act."

16. WMD Commission
BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency."

...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction."

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11."

...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks."

18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."

...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work."

19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony
BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday."

...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock."

20. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into."

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife."

21. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road."

...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people."

22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror."

...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11."

23. U.N. Resolution
BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam."

...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written."

24. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict
BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area."

...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East."

25. Campaign Finance
BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression."

...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law."

26. 527s
Bush opposes restrictions on 527s: "I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising <http://searchmiracle.com/text/search.php?qq=Advertising> , which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import."
…Bush says 527s bad for system: "I don't think we ought to have 527s. I can't be more plain about it…I think they're bad for the system. That's why I signed the bill, McCain-Feingold."

27. Medical Records
Bush says medical records must remain private: "I believe that we must protect…the right of every American to have confidence that his or her personal medical records will remain private."

…Bush says patients' histories are not confidntial: The Justice Department…asserts that patients "no longer possess a reasonable expectation that their histories will remain completely confidential."

28. Timelines For Dictators
Bush sets timeline for Saddam: "If Iraq does not accept the terms within a week of passage or fails to disclose required information within 30 days, the resolution authorizes 'all necessary means' to force compliance--in other words, a military attack."

…Bush says he's against timelines: "I don't think you give timelines to dictators."

29. The Great Lakes
Bush wants to divert great lakes: "Even though experts say 'diverting any water from the Great Lakes region sets a bad precedent' Bush 'said he wants to talk to Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien about piping water to parched states in the west and southwest.'-

Bush says he'll never divert Great Lakes: "We've got to use our resources wisely, like water. It starts with keeping the Great Lakes water in the Great Lakes Basin...My position is clear: We're never going to allow diversion of Great Lakes water."

30. Winning The War On Terror
Bush claims he can win the war on terror: "One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we're asking questions, is, can you ever win the war on terror? Of course, you can."

…Bush says war on terror is unwinnable: "I don't think you can win ."

…Bush says he will win the war on terror: "Make no mistake about it, we are winning and we will win ."

*Copy this off and hand it to your Repub friends.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:17 PM
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11. I have come to realize that W* rarely refers to Kerry by name or
official title - Senator. He uses the phrase "my opponent" - this way it is a lot easier to equate Senator Kerry with anything negative. I suggest we absolutely stop all references to him as the pResident; no reference by name either and instead use the phrase "the selected*" or "the appointed*" or something equally denigrating. Kerry campaign will be too "nice" to go for something like this but that should not hinder us here in DU from doing our part to get w* out of the WH.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:19 PM
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12. Allawi...pfffy
All-outta-wits is more like it.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:21 PM
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14. Coventina says Bush "hardly credible" on ANYTHING
So kiss my butt, Chimpy McCokespoon!!!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:24 PM
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15. I'm so sorry, this one got to me, it has pushed a button.
"HARDLY CREDIBLE"! JFC! How did we ever allow this to happen and what do we do now?

How can people really stand and support this man?

I'm at a loss, I do believe we are watching history repeat itself. The Bushbots are in control, along with the Christian Coalition.

God help us all please to find peace.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:07 PM
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16. he's seriously delusional
And has got to be on some heavy meds, he's off his rocker!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:34 PM
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19. I'm feeling really not well about what is coming.
Sorry. I just can't get away from it and you are right, he's on some heavy meds or else he's not taking them the way they were prescribed.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:07 PM
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22. psychiatric meds
Most (if not all) psychiatric medications can cause bad reactions when mixed with alcohol, it seriously would not surprise me if that is what is going on here. It's scary to think about, especially since he's got the launch codes.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:10 PM
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26. Truly Jaw Dropping
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 07:11 PM by Beetwasher
Indeed...There truly are no words that exist to adequately describe the Orwellian, Kafkaesque nightmare we are currently living in...It's grotesque beyond description...
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maumcc1 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:22 PM
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28. Biden
Did anyone just hear Biden on Paula Zahn? He ripped Chimpy apart. Actually, it's kind of scary the way he talked about him. I don't think I'm going to sleep too well tonight.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:47 PM
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20. Even if it were true, I'd take "hardly credible" over "grossly incompetent
Bush is:

Grossly Incompetent
Frighteningly Radical
Insipidly Warmongering
Ubiquitously False....

and many, many more bad things.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:52 PM
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21. If the press would do it's job, name-calling and slogans wouldn't cut it
"My opponent has taken so many different positions on Iraq that his statements are hardly credible at all," said Bush...

Yeah, name them! Go ahead, name all the permutations of Kerry's policies on Iraq that render him "hardly credible."

Only a complete whore press could let the Liar in Chief get away with walking around accusing others of incompetence when his own record is dismal failure after lie after dismal failure. He lied for war, and as Kerry pointed out, he lied not only to the American people, but to congress - an impeachable offense if the world weren't being run by hypocritical republicans.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Damned lying whores are letting this idiot ruin our country. Does anyone notice anymore how they act as enablers and excuse-makers instead of reporters? They are so one-sided. They attack what little of the Democratic message gets through while making excuses for bush.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:45 PM
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23. "First Kerry voted for the war, then..."
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 06:06 PM by Buzzz

This is Lie #1, the foundation for all the other "flip-flop on Iraq" lies. Somebody has told Bush and Cheney to keep repeating it even though it is patently false.

One can only assume that Bush believed and still believes that the IWR was a declaration of war. It wasn't. If he could read above a 3rd grade level he would know that.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:46 PM
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24. Bush doesn't even know what IWR is!
He keeps changing his rationale, Bush is the TRUE flip-flopper.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:01 PM
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25. Kerry is brilliant.
The public is eating up this new aggressive persona and at the same time, it's pissing off Scrub. If any of you saw the video of the above statement, you could see that Kerry is really beginning to get under his skin! Expect Scrub to burst an artery soon.
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maumcc1 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:17 PM
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27. How can this asshole
have the balls to even utter the word credible when he purposely took us into a war on false premises? I am amazed at his stupidity.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 10:21 PM
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30. I really don't get it either!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:36 AM
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31. kick!
:kick:
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