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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:50 PM Original message |
Most Americans Say $150,000 Annual Income Makes You Rich (also, Walmart heirs $= Bottom 30%) |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Most americans think "rich" starts... |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That sounds like a failure of imagination |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. You would be rich with $150,000 almost anywhere outside of |
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Beavker (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I lived in San Diego |
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zogofzorkon (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Cost of Mercedes S class 90K and up, Bertram 700 roughly 4 million, 2nd |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I draw a distinction between comfortable and rich. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Yep... and there's another distinction to be made. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. If you are earning more then $157,000 a year you are in the top 9.0% of the population |
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Samba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. ++ |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. If you have an income of $150,000, you could save |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. "I doubt that a person earning $150,000 would think that he or she was rich." |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. Because when most people earn that kind of money, they |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. In the DC area, $150,000 joint income is barely middle-class and paying the bills. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. $1200/mo for groceries? Seriously? Someone needs to go to Aldi |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. If you are earning more than $150,000, you are in the top 10% of all families |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. $150,000 a year here buys a decent house, 2 reliable cars, college education for 2 kids, puts food |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The problem is is $150,000 is Petty Bourgeois |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. The PB aren't defined so much by income as by social class and an attitude toward money |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The Traditional Definition of Middle class is the that group |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:56 AM Original message |
Petit bourgeois? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. Petit bourgeois is a Marxist term |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
49. It's Not the Income Dropping, It's the Expenses Rising |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. What people look at is NET INCOME. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 05:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. "one week at the beach"? |
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Shoe Horn (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. It's all relative, but I agree, 150k sounds pretty cushie. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
48. You'd Be Doing Damn Well Pretty Much Everywhere |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I would be extremely rich with that income. I now live on $8376 and that |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Most Americans don't understand the difference between income and wealth. |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Perfect explaination. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Amen, brother. This is surely why so many pro athletes go broke |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. You're dead wrong. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. For most people , $150,000 a year would pay off the mortgage, |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. What you've described is smack dab in "middle class" |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 08:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. The median US home sale price in May 2011 was $166,500 |
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kcks (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The polling method indicates it was taken over all 50 states and DC. That's a good sampling overall. |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Well, Certainly |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. Most americans are clueless or too young to remember the Great Prosperity. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. Explain to me again very carefully exactly what essential function the |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Why does everyone have to have an "essential function?" |
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zogofzorkon (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. The crack addicts essential function is to make the crack dealer rich or |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Because nowhere is it written as a universal law that anyone has |
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watajob (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. I would posit... |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. ...I can't even ever imagine making 150K |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. Can't even imagine that kind of income |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Americans don't "get" money. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
31. Summary: We have no idea how we are getting screwed |
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Samba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. Still too confusing. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. There are two ways to look at "rich" |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
38. I like Chris Rock's distinction between wealthy and rich |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Perfect summary of post #11 |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 04:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. There's only one way to deal with this... |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
43. Than most Americans are buffoons |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. It is when it is 2-4 times your income |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
44. So some of the rich bastids see themselves as poor do they |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. Unrec - when one tenth of the top one percent controls so many assets - |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. That's the stupidest unrec I've ever seen. Here's why. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You evidently didn't read all the threads after it complaining about folks making |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. And, beyond your personal insults, |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
51. VERY illuminating article. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
60. More proof of how ignorant Americans are. |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. $150,000 is not rich |
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Samba (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-11 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
62. 3 different - overlapping - 1%s |
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