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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:33 PM
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House Votes To Restrict Healthcare Law, With White House Support
Source: UPI

WASHINGTON, Oct. 27 (UPI) -- The U.S. House Thursday voted to restrict eligibility for Medicaid, insurance exchanges and other aspects of President Obama's healthcare reform legislation.

The House approved H.R. 2576, 262-157, with the help of 26 Democrats and the support of the Obama administration, The Hill reported.

The Congressional Budget Office has said as many as 1 million people could be affected by the restrictions, which, among other things, would include Social Security benefits as income in determining eligibility.

"By aligning this definition with other federal subsidy programs, the legislation ensures that taxpayer funds will not be used to enroll middle-class individuals into Medicaid, which is an abuse of the program's mission to provide targeted assistance to those who are most in need of help," said Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich.

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Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/10/27/House-votes-t... /
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:41 PM
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1. godddammittt! this was going to be a big part of my "livin large on 15K in retirement" book.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:28 PM
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9. Foiled!
:grr:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:39 PM
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16. Again!
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:47 PM
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2. You have to love republicans. No matter what, they are always trying to exclude people.
It is like a national past time for them.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:52 PM
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3. "...the support of the Obama administration.." yep, gotta love republicans alright nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:44 PM
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11. Amazing that anyone could read right over that -- !!!!
:evilgrin:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:09 PM
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4. It just keeps getting better and better.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:10 PM
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5. That's great.. lets weaken it a little more. This plan is becoming a
big damn joke.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:15 PM
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6. They're double teaming, too. The Super Committee is recommending cuts.
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:16 PM by No Elephants
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:21 PM
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7. It just gets crazier.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:46 PM
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12. It will continue to get crazier as we continue to vote for "lesser evil" based on FEAR ... !!!
Let's find a liberal candidate to challenge Obama in 2012!!

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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:47 PM
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22. You nailed it...
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:23 PM
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8. Let's just shoot the poor and elderly in the street.
I mean since we are not going to give them any medical care anyway. Might as well just shoot them dead and keep them from suffering through diseases and illnesses. It would give those RepubliCON gun lovers fun and amusement and some more deaths to really cheer for.
:sarcasm:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:49 PM
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13. +1000% -- When did we last hear Dems/Obama mention homeless, sick, poor????
Disgusting -- and people want to vote for more of this?
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Celefin Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:56 PM
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17. Seems you're at a point where mere voting becomes pointless
I feel for you people across the pond.
I really do. :(
And I'm very, very concerned that even here in still healthily democratic Scandinavia, about 50% keep voting to move toward that very same direction, against their own best interests. I don't get it.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:23 PM
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19. When you have corruption of government at this level, it does become pointless ---
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 04:32 PM by defendandprotect
though I will always vote no matter what -- or write someone in.

You and I agree on the message of OWS, I think -- they are saying government is dysfunctional,

two parties colluding together and not listening to the will of the people.

Certainly computers have played a large role in this since the late 1960's --

and also the LARGE computers used by MSM which gave them new powers to predict and

call elections -- a power we saw reversed in 2000 with the RECALL of Florida from Gore!




I'll include a link at the bottom you may be interested in looking at --

VOTESCAM -- THE STEALING OF AMERICA -- which is a book written by two journalists in

Florida in late 1960's who immediately recognized something was very wrong with results

being delivered by computers -- and that they were unverifiable!


However, was also just reading a copy of Public Citizen -- Sept/Oct -- and an interview

with Ralph Nader re why so many vote against their interests ---

Interviewer/WEISSMAN asks:

"If the corporate power problem is the worst it's been in American history, as you say,

why hasn't a stronger movement congealed against it?

NADER: Because part of corporate power is getting into the minds of children. They get

in the mind of kids very easily, they get into the educational system. Look at the way

economics is taught -- it's absurd -- supply and demand curves, you hardly ever hear about

oligopolies and corporate power and corporate crime -- the real nitty gritty of corporate-

economics.


Whether it's teaching of economics; whether it's teaching of engineering shorn of any

question about how can engineers blow the whistle ethically, how can they have their own

independent profession; whether it's teaching students business management, advertising,

marketing, students are not being taught consumer rights or consumer remedies at all.

Before you know it, you have a whole genertion that grows up unknowing and uncritical of

the controlling processes of corporate power.

And then of course you have a two-party dictatorship that dials for the same commercial

dollars now more than ever. And so they increasingly become more and more alike.

No one in the history of the world has developed a system of power so sophisticated, so

pervasisve, so inernally legitimizing by its own victims than corporatism. A word we

should repeat again and again and again. Corporatism.



Agree that much of that is wholly true -- but we do finally have people in the streets --

I think one of the major things is that people are having to learn to self-validate --

they used to have trust in government in FDR era which is really a handicap now --

and Dem Party and what should be the resistance has long been SILENT on what's really wrong,

with exception of few like Sen. Bernie Sanders and Kucinich telling us what's really going on.


Don't know if you can really find parallels between US and Scandinavia -- but in the end I very

much think people are all alike -- they don't have to have scams and phoney situations explained

to them -- they smell the ROT!! And they know the fish stinks from the head down !!


And thank you for the sympathy -- !!! Not much at stake -- just democracy, populations all over

the world -- labor -- and Global Warming breathing down our necks!!


We have to kill that ourtrageous notion that life is about creating profits for anyone --

least of all the elite violent few -- and certainly NOT at the expense of destruction of nature

and animal life and natural resources! Obviously, we would have been better off without any

concept of "bus-i-ness" since the planet is not replacement and nor is clean air, water, soil --

health of citizens.

Apologies for this rant -- I'll add it to my journal!!


:)


VOTESCAM ---


http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:26 PM
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20. Greed. Pure and Simple
You would never guess that never in all of history have so many had it so good...and a high level of basic living for all would be attained if the Greedy were restrained from hoarding and stealing.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:29 PM
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10. "Include Social Security benefits as income in determining eligibility"
What does this mean? I am on Medicare and Medicaid and SSA has always been considered. So how is this going to be changed?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:49 PM
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14. So Obama sides with 26 DINOs/Blue Dogs instead of the progressives.
And he's sucking it up into the right-wing narrative to shame Medicaid recipients. Disgusting. This will be one time I'm hoping for a Senate filibuster.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:35 PM
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25. +1000% --
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UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:10 PM
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15. More change I can believe in.
Thanks, Berry.

Occupy.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:12 PM
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18. And they wonder why OWS is getting stronger by the hour....
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:45 PM
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21. I am very disappointed that President Obama would take the side of the DINO's and Republicans on
this. What is he thinking?
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a simple pattern Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:00 PM
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23. Yes we (elected a Republi)can.
OOps.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:30 PM
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24. ...so that "middle class" folks can't get it??? Hell, you MUST be almost DESTITUTE to get Medicaid.
Such bullshit.

Always with the big "BOO!!!" about some someone that actually has a couple of pennies
still in their pockets.
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