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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:43 PM
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Obama jobs bill facing key vote Tuesday
Source: CNN

The Democratic-controlled Senate is expected to take up President Barack Obama's controversial jobs bill this week, with a key procedural vote on the $447 billion measure currently scheduled for Tuesday evening.

Among other things, the package includes an extension and expansion of the current payroll tax cut, an extension of jobless benefits to help the unemployed, new tax credits for businesses that hire the long-term unemployed and additional money to help save and create jobs for teachers and first responders such as firemen.

Republicans are vehemently opposed to a provision recently added by Senate Democrats that would pay for the measure through a 5.6% surtax on annual incomes over $1 million. GOP leaders have accused the president of engaging in so-called "class warfare" for political reasons, and are expected to prevent the bill from reaching the critical 60-vote threshold needed to clear the Senate.

Top Republicans have also said they will prevent a vote from being held on the original version of the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives.


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Despite the efforts of the 99 percent Movement and the OWS protests, the corporate media will continue to play the Republican talking point that the American people are against taxes to the rich, that the Republicans' proposal to turn Medicare into a voucher program is bold, and that liberals and the left are unhappy and unsatisfied with Democrats while ignoring the fact that Mitt Romney has pretty much been shoved down the throat of the Evangelical Christian right by the Wall Street establishment.

Remember the corporate media narratives:

1. The 99 Percent Movement and OWS protests will either die out or see the light and blame Democrats and Big Government regulation, not Wall Street.
2. The rich are the job creators, so the solution is to give more tax cuts to the rich.
3. The deficit matters when it comes to preserving of expanding benefits that benefit the poor and middle class, but the deficit does not matter when it comes to making sure the rich and corporations pay their fair share.
4. The left and liberals hate the Democrats and will stay home in 2012, but Republicans are just so happy and fired up for 2012 with the grassroots Tea Party.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:11 PM
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1. Obama should NOT cave but make the republicans shame themselves into nays
then obama should tour the nation and bash the do-nothing congress, the most realistic scenario i can see so far
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tropicanarose Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:12 PM
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3. You are right. I think that is the plan.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:43 PM
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10. Cave? The Bill Is Submitted, If The House Republicans Refuse To Vote On It
I would not blame that on the President or the Democrats. It simply means, once again, that the House Republicans are trying to turn the 112th Congress into the worst Congress ever. The 112th Congress is at a historical low, because Republicans absolutely refuse to compromise, and they seem assured that the American people will not hold them accountable for their stubborn willinessness to ignore 99 percent of Americans in order to protect the top 1 percent. Thankfully, the 99 percent movement and OWS protests are a welcome change from the protection the richer, er job creators, corporate media narrative.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:11 PM
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2. Anything Obama has touched is doomed to failure.....
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:27 PM
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4. it'll never pass
repug thugs are predictable...
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:29 PM
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5. Let's play a game.
Which Republicans will vote for the bill?

Murkowski?
Snowe?
Brown?
Collins?
Graham?
McCain?
Lugar?
Ayotte?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:31 PM
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:44 PM
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7. It's a talking point, period.. .It won't pass and he knows it.
But it fits nicely in a campaign speech, "look how hard I worked".
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:52 PM
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13. Whoa! DUers Are Now Attacking The President For Not Working With Republicans...
...by proposing a bill that Republicans will never accept. Too much compromise, now not enough. Amazing. Before the Criticism Was That Obama Was Not Willing To Risk Pushing A Bill That was right even though he knows it might now pass Congress. Now, he pushes and advocates a bill that even Krugman said he was pleasantly surprised at, and DUers are condemning Obama for not proposing a bill that is acceptable to Republicans!

Wow! Suddenly, Eric Cantor is right that President Obama should be blamed for not working with Republicans?
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:34 AM
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18. No attack from me, just stating that what he is saying
makes for good press, but it will go no further...
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:48 PM
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12. Unemployment Benefits Are Right Wing BS? Is Krugman now right wing?
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 11:48 PM by TomCADem
Also, if Republicans are against it, does that make them liberal?
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Little Tich Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:54 PM
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8. I hope the bill will pass,
it's very sane to lower taxes for those who really need that cut in hard times. I don't think those with million dollar incomes are that hard up right now, and they can probably take the surtax without going bankrupt.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:04 PM
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9. Regarding the narrative that the 99 Percent Movement and OWS protests will either die out or see the
light and blame Democrats and Big Government regulation, not Wall Street, there might be some truth to some of that. Yes, they certainly blame Wall Street as they should and I don't see them dying out, but on the other hand I don't see many of the protesters falling in line behind the Democratic Party either. Many of them seem to have more of a pox on both of your houses attitude and feel that our political system is broken. While the Tea Party types will probably vote vote en masse for the Republicans I don't see the OWL protesters and their sympathizers necessarily doing the same for the Democrats. And that could spell trouble for the Democrats.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:46 PM
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11. It Is Not About Falling In Line. Its About Setting Out Demands and Seeing Who Steps Up
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 11:46 PM by TomCADem
For example, who is willing to tax the rich?

Who wants to regulate Wall Street versus who wants to repeal Financial Reform and existing financial regulations?

Who wants to repeal energy efficiency standards?

Who wants to roll back the NLRA and collective bargaining rights?

If Republicans see the light, and suddenly fall on the 99 percent side of this equation, then the more power to them.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:56 PM
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14. There is no chance this bill makes it to cloture.
None. There will be no Republican support on even the procedural motion. Dead on arrival.
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red dog 1 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 12:30 AM
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15. The Jobs Bill Is DOA.......60 Votes in the Senate? I don't think so!
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 12:32 AM by red dog 1
And the Republican controlled House will either vote it down; or, they will prevent any vote at all on it.... Either way, the Jobs Bill is Dead On Arrival!
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 12:31 AM
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16. Let the GOP kill this bill. Then take that news to the masses. Sweep 2012 elections.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 12:58 AM
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17. The President is proposing expansion and extension of tax cuts and an extension of
unemployment.

Isn't that the same thing he proposed to Mitch the Turtle in December 2010--and everyone said he HAD to propose them?

God forbid we acknowledge the obvious--that Geithner is a Republican and Republicans believe you never increase taxes during a recession. If anything you cut them so that the "job creators" will create jobs, as is being done in this proposal with both tax cuts and tax incentives.

However, as Bernanke testified before Congress last week, the "job creators" are currently already sitting on two trillion dollars in cold, cold cash and are refraining from spending it. And the tax incentives in this bill for creating a new job do not cover the cost of creating a new job anyway.

What will create jobs is demand and you do not generate demand by giving the rich yet more money. They can already afford as many $10,000 sets of handmade bed sheets as they care to buy this week.
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