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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 12:43 PM
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Former Editor Says Murdoch Personally Gave Order to Have Someone Tailed
Source: ABC News (Australia)

Former editor says Murdoch personally gave order to have someone tailed
Posted on 08.22.11
By David Edwards

News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch personally told one of his former tabloid editors to have someone followed, according to a documentary that aired Monday night on Australian TV.

Ita Buttrose, former editor-in-chief of Sydney’s The Daily Telegraph, told ABC’s Australian Story that Murdoch instructed her to have a subject tailed because legitimate reporting techniques were not producing the desired results.

“I assigned a reporter to do it but wasn’t happy with the result and said, ‘No, that wasn’t good enough. Have you followed this person?’” she recalled.

“I can’t give this instruction,” Buttrose later told then-News Limited chief executive Ken Cowley. “I’m not having anybody that works for me, for whom I’m responsible, follow anybody. I don’t want to be a part of it.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/former-editor-says-murdoch-personally-gave-order-to-have-someone-tailed



Original Link: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/former-editor-says-murdoch-personally-gave-order-to-have-someone-tailed

Murdoch told me to have someone followed: Buttrose
Australian Story
Updated August 22, 2011 20:31

Media figure Ita Buttrose says Rupert Murdoch suggested she have someone followed while chasing a story in her time as editor-in-chief of the Sunday Telegraph and Daily Telegraph.

In Monday night's Australian Story, Ms Buttrose said the media mogul asked her to "go beyond what I thought I should do".

Ms Buttrose said the request came while working on a story at Mr Murdoch's request.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 12:45 PM
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1. K & R. nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 12:46 PM
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2. K&R !!! n/t
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 01:32 PM
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3. "someone"? That could be perfectly acceptable
What if the 'someone' was a politician meeting with a suspected criminal? Then tailing them would be a good idea - justifiable 'in the public interest', and almost certainly legal (it would be in the UK, for instance, and I'd expect in Australia too). Until we know what the story would have been, this is trivial.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 02:17 PM
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5. I agree..
What is the difference between this and paparazzi tactics? While the paparazzi are demonized, they are a reality and quite legal on nearly every corner of the planet. Certainly Murdock's tit is in the wringer, as it should be, some of the accusations have been accepted practice by reporters for decades.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:34 PM
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17. self delete.
Edited on Mon Aug-22-11 05:35 PM by SusanaMontana41
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 04:15 PM
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13. Agreed, this on the surface isnt damning so I'm confused why the OP posted it at all.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 01:44 PM
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 02:54 PM
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6. K and R (nt)
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 03:01 PM
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7. Kick and Rec for all the Fox News fans stopping in
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stonecutter357 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 03:33 PM
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9. fox
fox is not news.:toast:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 03:28 PM
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8. Sounds like a mafia
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 03:51 PM
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10. that is what tabloids do, it's just that it's not a news organization
tabloids paparazzi tail people. to provoke something. hence create the news
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 04:07 PM
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11. Which is interesting but also irrelevant
as it has nothing to do with the phone hacking in the UK...and it's also rather context-free (have who followed and why? And as noted above there's a strong public interest defence for certain actions which may not be acceptable in the absence of said public interest).
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 01:30 AM
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28. The point is that Mudoch himself ordered that the subject be followed.
And there is no suggestion that the subject was a criminal or the potential victim of a criminal.

Whether this is legal in Australia depends on the law there.

Here, ordinary people have a degree of a right to privacy.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 05:26 AM
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29. There is no suggestion the subject was
an "ordinary person". In fact it is highly unlikely it was, why would murdock care about the activities of an "ordinary person"? The problem with this story is, that it draws away from the actual wrong doing he has done. 60 Minutes, Dateline, and virtually every other magazine news program has followed people to get their stories, unless something more specific than what is in the OP proves otherwise, this has been going on at every news bureau for decades. It is called investigative journalism.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 12:48 PM
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32. The point is not whether people are followed for a news story.
The point is the extent to which Murdoch involved himself in the process of news gathering, the minutiae of how information for a story was collected.

It isn't that it was necessarily illegal to follow someone. It is that Murdoch himself told the woman how to gather the information. So it was Murdoch's personal involvement that is important in this story. If he told her specifically to follow someone, then it makes it more possible that he also was involved in telling people how to collect the information for other stories.

It is not "evidence" of misbehavior. It is "evidence" of Murdoch's close involvement in the instruction of reporters.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 04:14 PM
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12. If the Murdoch thread is pulled on long enough I think it's going to lead to the revelation that
Murdoch's organization, at the behest of Karl Rove, was behind the hacking of Elliot Spitzer's phone. We'll see.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:15 PM
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20. Interesting ---
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:02 PM
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14. K&R
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:11 PM
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15. This is the way fascists operate.........nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:18 PM
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16. "Ita Buttrose" sounds like a Bond villianness.
Sorry, I can't past that name without commenting on it.


Oh, and Murdoch is toast.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:09 PM
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19. It brought out my worst Beavis and Butthead features too.
And I DO hope you're right about Murdoch.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:15 PM
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21. Her name does sound funny but she's a highly respected figure in Australia.
Ita Buttrose pioneered women's magazines in this country and is one of our most successful businesswomen.

Her credibility is pretty much beyond reproach - if she said Murdoch told here to do it, then he did.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:30 PM
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22. Not to forget the "Chisel" endorsement
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 06:47 PM
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18. k&r
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:48 PM
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23. No news here. Classic reporting technique, not illegal immoral etc.
Not the same as hacking into phones, which is illegal etc.

Only helpful if it shows a pattern of privacy invasion of which this is a part.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 08:12 PM
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24. I hope they throw the a-h in jail. nt
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:08 PM
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25. Ya'll don't get it.
It's what it says about his character. Ultimately arbitrary interpretations of the law, not precisely worded interpretations, are what will get him in the end. His problem is not the legal system... his problem is the sentiment which shapes it.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 12:16 AM
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26. K&R n/t
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 01:14 AM
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27. k&r
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 08:18 AM
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30. 100th rec. We get the significance of this - pattern & practice violation, RICO, Foreign Corrupt
Edited on Tue Aug-23-11 08:19 AM by leveymg
Practices Act prosecution, conspiracy, wiretapping.

Rupert's empire crumbles. Fox News, a cost center, cast off its money lifeline. Saudis have to look for another paid RW mouthpiece. Assuming Obama's DOJ actually does something to prosecute - assuming too much?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:11 AM
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31. The wealthy are unregulated, so it's okay for them to do as they...
please.

Money trumps everything else but more money.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:23 PM
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33. Ugly. Not shocking anymore, but ugly as all hell. nt
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