Opinions vary on Bush news conference

[JoFerret]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=703&e=6&u=/ap/20040414/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_reaction

Some say it was useless blather. Others say they could see the extra-terrestrials flashing signals through his tie.

[Cush]

1. best comment

"I feel sorry for him," said A.L. Reynolds, 68, a retired businessman from Chicago who described himself as an independent. "He has not answered one reporter's question, he has not apologized, he has an arrogant attitude and he's not going to change anyone's opinion with this speech. ... I feel very sorry for him and I'm scared for us."

[AussieInCA]

3. wow, wake up america

[JoFerret]

5. Wake up to what?

That the Oz government is right behind Bush? Or to the fact that sane people everywhere oppose Bush and his fellow travellers in the UK, Australia and elsewhere?

[AussieInCA]

6. nod..agree

think you took my point the wrong way :)

[GoddessOfGuinness]

10. Welcome to DU!

:)

[AussieInCA]

17. thanks GoG :)

[JoFerret]

12. Hi Aussie

Not sure how to take it as was not sure what it meant.
Cheers matey.
Anyway - yes - wake up America; wake up Australia; wake up UK; wake up world.

[AussieInCA]

16. heya jo :)

yep, that performance tonight is hopefully a wakeup call across the globe.

[VolcanoJen]

27. Now that's the message.

I'm right there with you, JoFerret.

[LyleNews]

30. I know, I just tried Bernie Ward's Show and "Kneepads" Wattenberg is there

I wanted to hear Bernie's take on that scripted farce tonight. I clicked on his show on the internet and was sorely disappointed.




Dr. Strangelove is chastising the intellectuals again for Bashing Butch whenever he gives a prime time "performance". You have to feel sorry for someone that needs his tax free grants so bad he sells out the people that fund them.

[JoFerret]

4. Most delusional comment

"He's willing to take a stand and to back it up, regardless of whether it's not as popular as people want it to be," said Hinker, 32, a Republican. "He understands what the families are going through

[JohnOneillsMemory]

18. Delusional: AP saying "700 INSURGENTS were killed." Lies Lies Lies.

This is the problem.

If the fucking AP is ignoring the slaughter of innocents when they slide this in as a backgrounder to another story, don't expect Mr. and Mrs. Regular American to have any data to UNDERSTAND BUSH* WITH.

Like covering up the US coup in Haite and KIDNAP OF ARISTIDE!!!

[Judi Lynn]

25. The insurgent children are simply the worst. So spiteful!

Why should the _Bushes waste their time thinking of them? As _Bush said tonight, "Who wants to see all those dead people on tv?" (POSSIBLY THE MOST OBNOXIOUS REMARK EVER MADE BY A PRESIDENT.) (It's as if he's saying, "Why didn't they have the grace to be killed farther away from the cameras?")

As for Aristide, our dolt ambassador Foley was hard at work today on a little additional perception molding by claiming the night Aristide disappeared Foley had spoken with him several times and had been stunned by how down in the dumps, glum, depressed, sorrowful, resigned, and unwilling to fight Aristide had been.

Apparently they STILL don't think they are out of the woods with Aristide and have drug out Foley to continue telling Americans what their belief should be about the _Bush coup, so they'll forget what they know.

[JoFerret]

33. Damn kids need some discipline

in the home. maybe they need a No Child Left Untested Act to bring them into line.

[atre]

26. Wow

Have they been emailed about that? I'd like to think it was an error.

[sushi]

14. We watched the whole thing

You're right. He didn't answer one reporter's question, but why didn't any of them say "please answer the question?" We were talking so I'm not sure but didn't he also say that one of his most difficult jobs is to console the family members who have lost their lives? We all know what he meant but I think that's what he said.

[LiberalFighter]

23. At least one reporter did reask the question and gw* still didn't

[calimary]

29. And did you know that we now have TWO Secretaries of State?

Yep - Secretary of State Powell AND Secretary of State Rumsfeld. Yes. He said this. And also - "put peoples in harm way" - and "in calling around, I've spoke to Prime Minister Berlusconi" - just a few of his bright, shining moments.

JEEZ. Makes me gag. We ARE the laughingstock of the world. THIS is what represents us as a country.

[krkaufman]

20. absolutely. hurrah for Mr Reynolds

Mr Reynolds nailed the 'gist of the press conference, without getting too personal. (He politely avoided commenting on Bush's stumbin' bumblin' repetition of old sound bites and deceptions.)

[saigon68]

2. A BUFFOON smirking away

Now I KNOW WHY why I nick named him the CHIMPANZEE.

[Jack Rabbit]

7. An encouraging story

The only person quoted who stood firmly Bush was somebody Bush didn't need to convince; that fellow support Bush if the Frat Boy hacked his mother with an axe.

Jeff Gray, 53, who works at the car dealership and is the son of a World War II prisoner of war, said he supported Bush, "but I am scared of the road ahead because I'm scared it's going to turn into another Vietnam."

That was the other piece of support for the Frat Boy in the story. Mr. Gray sounds awful shakey. Do you think we can get him around to our way of thinking by November? I do.

If this reflects public opinion, we are in good shape.

[LSK]

8. for real opinions...

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=l&board=37138469&tid=apbush&sid=37138469&mid=425940

[jobycom]

9. And Bill Finkle of DogWash, Nebraska spake, and sayeth

"Bush hath not the intelligence to scratch his nose," and Fred Urgle of Prairie Dog Run, Colorado said "Man, he's a great SOB, ain't he?"

Geeze, what the Hell is the point of a story like that? There are a lot of journalists who should be forced to work real jobs cleaning ditches somewhere where they can't speak to people. Just write "Some people liked it, some didn't," and then write a story with some facts and thought in it on something we don't know already.

It's bad enough that most of our arts have become banal (except hiphop, which holds some promise), but when our "media" reaches this level and gets paid for it, we are dead as a civilization. To paraphrase, a nation that values mediocre journalists over good plumbers will wind up with neither good journalism nor good plumbing." Nor any information we need to run a democracy.

[fizzana]

11. He has a plan?????

"He's given us a plan, what we're going to do, and we're not going to let anything stop us," said Nelson, a Republican. "I was proud of the president that he would not let anything deter us from making this happen."

If Mr. Nelson knows what the plan is he should immediately contact the White House and let them know what the plan is because they certainly don't.

[markses]

13. I'll never understand the conservative obsession with stubborness

A plan? Plans become dangerous when they lose sight of ends and effects, when they take on a life of their own. Notice the absolute incoherence of this "Republican's" statement:

1) He's given us a plan, what we're going to do, and we're not going to let anything stop us.

What is the goal? Why do we have this "plan?" What are the effects of this "plan?" Would any effects constitute a good reason to abandon this "plan?" All this can be asked without even asking what the plan is. Mr. Nelson clearly has no idea what the plan is, no idea what the goal is, no idea what the effects of the plan are, and no idea what conditions would provide a good reason to change plans, or change goals. In fact, for this last condition, Mr. Nelson explicitly states that NOTHING should cause us to divert from the plan. This is not good citizenship on Mr. Nelson's part.

2) I was proud of the president that he would not let anything deter us from making this happen.

"I was proud of the president" is clearly nothing but Limbaugh talking point. That aside, one wonders about the lack of antecedent for "this." What does "this" refer to? What is the goal? Making what happen? Bizarro.

[JoFerret]

15. Conservatives always think they know the one answer

liberals are always aware of alternatives and grey areas. In this sense Conservatives are like all dogmatists of the left and right - fascists, communists etc.

[krkaufman]

21. Yes, the *real* most delusional statement

Agreed. Mr Nelson's was by far the most delusional. WHAT PLAN, indeed?

[RichV]

19. The tie

So... did it look like a psychedelic dream to other people too then? I wondered if the tie thing was just on my TV. Man, what a wardrobe mistake.

[krkaufman]

22. The tie was likely NOT a mistake

Hey, they'll do ANYTHING to keep the topic of conversation diverted from relevant issues. If everybody's talking about the flashing tie, then they're not talking about his lack of a plan, that Iraq has inarguably damaged the war against global terrorism, etc.

[tedzbear]

28. The tie was a Monarch mind control device...

...it is an infallible, visual decoy that keeps susceptible people from concentrating on the words of the speaker. It worked for me, but what worked even better was turning off my TV.


:kick:

[JoFerret]

36. Always wise to assume they do these things on purpose

...including the current mess in Iraq. Of course they would prefer orderly well-behaved Iraqi serfs but that is not the main issue. The main issue is the permanent bases and the opportunity to control the oil flow while establishing a fortress presence in the region. These pesky thuggish clerics and their followers are flies to be swatted.
So the tie - chosen to distract. Of course - these thesis implies control and discipline and loyalty and all those Bushie virtues. Sometimes things spin out of control and we enter whopperland.

[susu369]

32. Agreed

that tie was selected to distract. It worked.

[JoFerret]

34. Wardrobe malfunction

as Bush displays his inner boob.

[snippy]

38. That is outstanding.

[gate of the sun]

24. I liked the independents response

I'm scared for our country too.

[yelladawg]

31. bush is an idiot

But did the reporters leave their backbone at the door?

[TroglodyteScholar]

35. Surprised to see this line....

"Others say they could see the extra-terrestrials flashing signals through his tie."

HAH and I thought I was the only one.....

[Tellurian]

37. Scary times. Now that Rove has run out of road-

finding no one left standing to spin * out of this quagmire.

Rove is desperate- Desperate people can and will do anything to get out from under a critical spotlight.