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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:49 AM
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(Bush Flip/Flop)US military turns to Saddam Hussein's ex-officers
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullS...
US military turns to Saddam Hussein's ex-officers --Following confirmation at the weekend that Iraqi soldiers had refused to fight in Falluja, General John Abizaid, the head of US forces in the Middle East, said on Monday that a number of police and Iraqi civil defence units operating in the south of the country had also failed to stand up to insurgents.

In order to try to resolve the problems in Iraqi chains of command, which US generals blamed on Monday for the refusal of several Iraqi units to fight, the coalition is turning to the former soldiers it once spurned.

"We've got to get more senior Iraqis involved, former military types involved in the security forces," Gen Abizaid said. "In the next couple of days, you'll see a large number of senior officers being appointed to key positions in the ministry of defence and in Iraqi joint staff and in Iraqi field commands. And General Sanchez and I are very much involved in the vetting and placing of these officers and I can tell you the competition for these positions have been fierce."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4724949 /

U.S. seeks help of Hussein's military --Defections, desertions in U.S.-formed army create problems --U.S. commanders in Baghdad said Monday that they would reach out to former senior members of Saddam Hussein’s disbanded army to try to stiffen Iraqi security forces who have proved disappointing against a growing insurgency.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:50 AM
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1. Bush is "flop-flop"
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 05:50 AM by SoCalDem
not "flip-flop" :evilgrin:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:52 AM
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3. True - so True
And these pet photo's are a great way to start a day!

:-)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:53 AM
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4. Sorry to say.. That's not me or my pet
:)
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:14 PM
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13. maybe for you
'48 K' is considered over limit for sig lines .. not to mention controversial content considering the recent debates at DU ..
just hoping you guys can get your thrills somewhere besides a political forum . . . whateva .
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 06:23 AM
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7. Flop doesn't even begin to describe it.
Wasn't Rumsfeld telling us a short time ago that our problems in Iraq were being caused by remnants of Saddam's regime? Now we're using them against the rest of the Iraqi people? Saddam and Osama must be getting a huge chuckle out of this FUBAR. Looks like the only thing Abizaid respects is tough military types; he's essentially calling the Iraqi forces that don't want to turn on their fellow Iraqis wimps.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:52 AM
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2. it looks like they moved the story . broken link in OP
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:54 AM
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5. Thanks - I tested link an hour ago - but "things change" !! :-)
:-)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 06:03 AM
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6. This will be a bitter pill to take for the clowns
who fantisize their own wit when they drag their flip-flops out to whack away during John Kerry appearances. They should be forced to swallow those things.



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From the MSNBC article:
The commanders acknowledged failures in U.S. attempts to train and mentor Iraqi police and soldiers.

Army Gen. John Abizaid, the commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, said a number of Iraqi police and civil defense corps members “did not stand up to the intimidators” during battles last week in restive Sunni and Shiite Muslim cities.
(snip)
Yeah, they are just deficient, right? Poor, dumb, cowardly Iraqiis. Brave, smart Abizaid!

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:23 AM
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8. Imus this a.m. said give the keys back to Saddam and let him run the
country since he did a pretty good job of keeping order. Sounds like this might be a first step.

This administration is starting to look like a joke. Something we ought to realize is very good for us. If it wasn't so sad for the troops.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:37 AM
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9. so if they play on our side they're not war criminals after all?
:evilgrin:

:shrug:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:56 AM
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10. oh.... just cut to the chase and re-install Saddam Hussein!
idiots.
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:04 AM
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11. As I said yesterday...
It looks like Shrubco is trying to reconstitute (I just love that word) the Iraqi Secret Police (aka the Thought Police, the Waffen SS, etc.)
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:30 AM
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12. Bwahahahahahaaa!!! What a bunch of phonies !!!
What Bushco really wants was another Saddam Hussein, albeit one they could control after SH broke the puppet strings in 1990.

Too rich !!


:evilgrin:
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