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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:02 PM Original message |
Senate's Returning Democrats Unanimously Favor Filibuster Reform |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Too little, too late |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Late perhaps - but not "too little". I counter your cynicism with "better late than later". |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Except that the Senate will now be under tighter Republican control than before |
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musiclawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Well, I can't disagree, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. They didn't know that the Rethugs would abuse the filibuster |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 01:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. They didn't? I thought it was announced. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. after the first couple of times, it should have been obvious this is how the rethugs are operating |
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musiclawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. If this is true, it is huge! |
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groundloop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's just too damned bad this didn't happen 2 years ago |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Should have happened two years ago ... why not? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Why not? Because no previous Republican minority has ever |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Repugs have been steadily abusing it -- escalating it every time ..... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, there hasn't been a "steady" increase. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The Repugs have been controlling the Senate whether they were the majority or the minority.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The filibuster had never been used to anything like the extent |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Filibuster has been used over and again by Repugs .... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Then why did the Bush* tax cuts have to be done by reconcilliation? |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
50. There's no need to spread falsities |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. But they *promised* that they would, so the Dems should have taken them |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Two years ago we didn't know the Rethugs |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Gee, could we have guessed? What had they been doing previously that would |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. No, we wouldn't have guessed. Not without a crystal ball. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. We had every clue ... and the filibuster should have been overturned in this Congress .... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. The Senate rules can only be changed at the beginning of a session. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And there was no beginning to the 110th or 111th Congress .... ? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. At the beginning of the 111th Congress there was no reason |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Look at the link...Dems doubled the filbusters, then GOP tripled them... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. "Doubling" and "tripling" was relative to a low base. |
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shawn703 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Reminds me of something Condi Rice once said |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. The ruptured duck and coverists are coming and boy are they... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is a BIG Deal |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. Just in time to help the GOP now .... ??? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. It will not help the GOP. The dems will still have the majority in the senate. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. You mean the smaller majority than they've had for two years .... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
58. It'll help when the R's retake the Senate in 2012. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. this is shoot'n your own balls off to spite some F'n Fascist NeoCon Cleptocratic Plutocrats |
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xynthee (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. Do it!! |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. Here's some more details of the dem's filibuster reform proposal |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. How many votes does that give us? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. Recommend |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
35. Silliness. This will accomplish nothing. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Yes it will accomplish a lot See comment #41 n/t |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
37. Now that there won't be any decent bills from the House, they change the Senate rules |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. But... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. When they take over next November. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
39. Kicked and recommended. |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
43. - |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
44. Democrats Seek Changes to Senate Procedures |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Sounds like something Chavez would do. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Info in OP was already posted Wednesday in LBN on the link below |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. This would have helped two years ago, but now that the GOP controls the House, they can block |
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rampart (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. so in 2012 when mcconnell is sworn in as majority leader |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
49. It's all for 'show'. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 07:46 AM Original message |
Please excuse the double post - computer went haywire. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
52. They need to consider the possibility of a Republican House and Senate. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
53. Neither panic nor rejoice: change, if any, will be quite modest. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. Do it! I am sick of corrupted ConservaDems getting in the way! |
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Synicus Maximus (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
56. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Sooner or later |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I'm fine with the filibuster having to be an endurance thing no matter who's in power |
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